Ontarget Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Just wondering what happened to Brownells's shotgun dummy rounds, a great product for practicing reloads. Why were they discontinued? http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/cartridge-dummies/action-proving-shotgun-dummies-shotgun-dummies-12-ga-2-3-4-per-5-sku367-025-512-58848-16765.aspx Edited December 7, 2013 by Ontarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Just wondering what happened to Brownells's shotgun dummy rounds, a great product for practicing reloads. Why were they discontinued? http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/cartridge-dummies/action-proving-shotgun-dummies-shotgun-dummies-12-ga-2-3-4-per-5-sku367-025-512-58848-16765.aspx Why don't you call the folks at Brownells? They might know. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mitch Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 They were sold out for a long time before deactivating the part number. That's lame. Maybe someone else carries them. Mine are Remington brand, and Fiocchi made some too. Not sure who else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mngunguy Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Just wondering what happened to Brownells's shotgun dummy rounds, a great product for practicing reloads. Why were they discontinued? http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/cartridge-dummies/action-proving-shotgun-dummies-shotgun-dummies-12-ga-2-3-4-per-5-sku367-025-512-58848-16765.aspx From what I've been told Remington isn't making them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 If you know anyone that reloads you can make up some of your own. I use rounds with a high brass base, add media from my tumbler to take up that space where the powder would be and then add the wad and shot. Feels/balances just like a real loaded round and I can make up as many as I need. Mark them with a sharpie and use. When they get trashed I just make up more. Neal in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trgt Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Would either of these work for what you want? I have a bunch of midway ones for reloading practice, and one brass one for each shotgun for storage. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/776843 http://www.opticsplanet.com/pro-shot-brass-snap-caps-12-gauge-semi-auto-two-per-package-12semi-sc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxymajor Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 There a little nasty anyways. The black "paint" on the metal gets all over your hands and clothes. Get a reloaded buddy to make you some dummy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmt Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Would either of these work for what you want? I have a bunch of midway ones for reloading practice, and one brass one for each shotgun for storage. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/776843 http://www.opticsplanet.com/pro-shot-brass-snap-caps-12-gauge-semi-auto-two-per-package-12semi-sc.html The problem with either of those is the price. Putting a dozen of those on your belt to practice reloads is $$$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bell Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 been trying to find some myself for months now to no avail. Just asked some local reloaders if somebody could make me up some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukez Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 http://www.amazon.com/Bs-Dry-Fire-Snap-Caps/dp/B00FM8GE1E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386482697&sr=8-1&keywords=dummy+12+gauge+rounds These are about as good as I think it can get.. about to order some myself to give it a try.. come in different colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) I hate to be all Danny Downer, but if you use dummy rounds that are made out of real hulls, at some time you will get real ammo mixed in! I know of two T.V.s a fridge and several pictures and one PERSON!!! that have been "dummy rounded" to death. I use live ammo for loading drills and boy am I carefully....because I know it is live! Edited December 8, 2013 by kurtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukez Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 probably a best practice to always treat it like its live whether or not correct? Dont ever get careless because you "think" it's a dummy round no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukez Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Plus I would probably get the white ones and write dummy all over it and draw all sorts of colors on it to make it as obvious as possible as a double precaution. But I am sure accidents still happen regardless what you do, so back to my previous statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I loaded up a dozen dummy practice rounds this evening. Remington Nitro hulls, 1 1/8 ounce of 7 1/2 shot and obviously no powder. The bases were blackened for easy identification. Took about 10 minutes. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Snap caps are okay but they are light. I have only four old weighted ones for cowboy shooting but that is clearly not enough for modern 3gun. I keep the dummies in the house and the hot rounds in the garage and have had no trouble with that routine. I have thought about reloading for shotgun but what I have heard is the price break is out a zillion rounds. Pat, hook me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontarget Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 From Brownells: "Unfortunately they stopped manufacturing them, so we are unable to get them any longer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropsitos Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I just went out and bought a lee load all and some shot cups and shot and load my own. My plan was to make them and sell them to recover the cost of the press but I've not had time to perfect my process to the point that I feel confident to sell them (I'm a bit of a perfectionist). They work fine and the crimps look good but I've noticed that the dummies run .020" longer than a factory round and i haven't figured that out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I just went out and bought a lee load all and some shot cups and shot and load my own. My plan was to make them and sell them to recover the cost of the press but I've not had time to perfect my process to the point that I feel confident to sell them (I'm a bit of a perfectionist). They work fine and the crimps look good but I've noticed that the dummies run .020" longer than a factory round and i haven't figured that out yet. You will find more than 0.20" variation between manufactures. Shotshells do not have a OAL loaded standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I made some recently. I try and only shoot Remington Nitro in matches so I started with some Gray Win AA hulls and loaded a Lee 1oz slug in backwards with a plastic shot card on top. Used a Ballistic Products roll crimp. I don't use AA in matches but they are as comparable to a Nitro as you can get. Made a dozen in about 15 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropsitos Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I just went out and bought a lee load all and some shot cups and shot and load my own. My plan was to make them and sell them to recover the cost of the press but I've not had time to perfect my process to the point that I feel confident to sell them (I'm a bit of a perfectionist). They work fine and the crimps look good but I've noticed that the dummies run .020" longer than a factory round and i haven't figured that out yet. You will find more than 0.20" variation between manufactures. Shotshells do not have a OAL loaded standard. Did not know that. I was comparing the dummies I made to a factory hull and the dummies were tight in the caddy, where the factory were not. Maybe I am making more acceptable dummies than I thought. thanks pat. In case anyone is curious about the process I use, I press out the primer, drop some paper towel into the hull and press the shotcup onto that. Then fill with shot and crimp. i then seal the top center of the crimp and the primer hole with some hot melt just in case. I then blacken the brass with black magic marker just to help with keeping things separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordfan485 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Since I couldn't find any online and I don't reload shotgun but I paid someone $15 bucks to make 25 dummy rounds for me. Just put up a WTB ad in the classifieds and it will get answered pretty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I hate to be all Danny Downer, but if you use dummy rounds that are made out of real hulls, at some time you will get real ammo mixed in! I know of two T.V.s a fridge and several pictures and one PERSON!!! that have been "dummy rounded" to death. I use live ammo for loading drills and boy am I carefully....because I know it is live! Truly "Dummy" rounds eh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukez Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The ones I got from Amazon B's dummy rounds.. They are pretty solid, the weight is there and all that other good stuff. My only beef with them is they are pricey. You get 9 for around $30 and you can choose from various colors. But I still treat them as live rounds, but I am going good to color the brass black that seems like a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millisec Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I've been looking and it seems everything ever made has been discontinued. I finally found that carbon arms had some on their website. As I was in the process of adding to cart the item disappeared from the site just a few weeks back. Talk about luck... guess I will have to find someone to make a box. What is available is snap caps which aside from being mostly overpriced, especially if you want basically a box of shells, is not very good for practice loading IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gondo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I hate to be all Danny Downer, but if you use dummy rounds that are made out of real hulls, at some time you will get real ammo mixed in! I know of two T.V.s a fridge and several pictures and one PERSON!!! that have been "dummy rounded" to death. I use live ammo for loading drills and boy am I carefully....because I know it is live! X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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