GlennRasch Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Tormach makes a awesome machine and tech support is the best, I have 2 of the 1100 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Made this tonight on my mill. Took about 1.5 hours because my spindle rpm sucks and i had my rapids at 40ipm to prove the code out. Just going to trim the parts in the vise with on a router table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Should figure out what size that bore is and adjust it, to become a case gage tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Should figure out what size that bore is and adjust it, to become a case gage tool That's what I was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Nah, while i can make things pretty well so far but the precision for a chamber checker is a bit more that i want to try for right now. Mach 3 did just stop the machine half way through and threw no error codes though. I ended up restarting everything and then re-starting the program where it stopped but it was an exciting 20 min trying to find the invisible problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) So I have been thinking more on the new offering from Tormach and would really like a little input from the galley here. Mainly for slide serration patterns, bomar cuts, RMR cuts, other various sight cuts, engraving etc Edited November 6, 2015 by dskinsler83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 It looks like a nice machine. It says the first batch is sold out on their site. If you are doing pistol work with it, I think it would be great. If you are not in a rush CNC NYC will be having another open house in the spring. I am going. I don't own a tormach, but the last one was a great time! He is also going to be offering classes where you can work on a 440. I am thinking students running the machines on a regular basis will find any problems if there are any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Out of stock is ok as long as you can still order and get in line lol and the table travel is my only concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 If you only have one machine, the travels of the 440 can be limiting. On a machine tool, bigger is much better. On any size machine it seems you are always running out of travel in one axis or another as different projects come up. A bigger machine gives you more choices of what you can do and how you can do it. All the machines can do the same things, but bigger machines can do bigger parts. Also, bigger machines can do more small parts at one time. If you come up with something you want to make and sell, you can gang more parts on a bigger machine and increase the output over what the smaller machine can do. For most people the limiting factor is the money not the space. An 1100 is not much bigger than a 440. A 770 is the same size as an 1100 but smaller travels. Get the biggest machine you can possibly afford, even if you have to stretch the budget a bit to do it. The value of going bigger is in the ability to do a bigger variety of projects. Once you have a machine, new projects seem to come along in an endless stream. You never know what will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Good point but it seems getting capital funding for a business is a little hard to do (at least for me). I need a small plastic injection machine as well with a custom made mold but it's around $10,000 as well. Another blast cabinet and a larger air compressor are needed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Good point but it seems getting capital funding for a business is a little hard to do (at least for me). I need a small plastic injection machine as well with a custom made mold but it's around $10,000 as well. Another blast cabinet and a larger air compressor are needed as well. Have you ever looked on hgr industrial surplus? I try to go to their location once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 If you only have one machine, the travels of the 440 can be limiting. On a machine tool, bigger is much better. The travel is limiting, but that's only part of the problem with a small machine. For a hobby machine where you don't want to make a custom fixture for every little task, the small table can be incredibly frustrating. I often have a project that easily fits in the work envelope of my X2, but I have to spend a lot of time and effort figuring out a work holding solution that will fit on the small table. Tool holding can be a problem as well. Many times I have to drill using collets because I don't have room for a drill chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 griz, do you have a set of screw length drills? I just bought one because i was having the same issue as you, also lets you skip spotting alot of the time. for what you listed a 440 would be fine but a 770 would be better if you can swing it. A small machine can be a problem if you are trying to do runs of a product, but honestly if you can build the prototypes and finalize the design you are better off sending it to a real shop with real machines. Spend the hours and hours you would have spent machining with a 1hp spindle prototyping or designing something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Tool holding can be a problem as well. Many times I have to drill using collets because I don't have room for a drill chuck. I prefer to use collets for drilling, much more accurate than my chuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griz Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 griz, do you have a set of screw length drills? I do. I am very good at working around the limitations of my small machine. I just wanted to point out the downsides of a small machine because every time I do anything beyond simply clamping the work piece in a vice I wish I had a bigger table. Speaking of vices, I usually use a 3" Kurt clone that is fast and convenient and has minimal jaw lift... I often have to switch to a screwless vice which is lower profile but less convenient. Did I mention that I wish I had a bigger mill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Oh yes, i do hate that i cant fit a 6" vice on my table, another disadvantage of a small machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinj308 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'm annoyed by the 4" costing the same as the 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Played with flame polishing, never tried it before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open1215 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Turned out really nice! Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinj308 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 That is good looking!!!!! With a benzomatic or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Yep just a cheap torch from home depot with a pencil flame. I kept the flame really small but it still went pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Tool holding can be a problem as well. Many times I have to drill using collets because I don't have room for a drill chuck. I prefer to use collets for drilling, much more accurate than my chuck. does that mean your chuck has runout? Generally collets are less desirable to drill with because tools can be pushed into them with much less force that if they were cutting on the side like with an endmill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) If the drill fits the collet that isn't a problem. An R8 collet needs a drill the same size as the collet. An ER collet can grip any drill within it's range. Edited November 8, 2015 by Toolguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I just use the appropriate size R8 collet for the drill bit I am using. Clamping force should be greater with this setup as opposed to a geared chuck. Almost zero runout this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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