wanttolearn Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I recently purchased a 1911 pistol designed for metal plates, the pistol came with a C-more sight (Serendipity SL), standard not sideways mounting. I like the sight but i'm trying to figure out how best to use it. I note that i seem to pick up the dot at the lower 1/3 of the field. I would have imagined that it would tend to appear centrally. I don't feel like i'm tilting the pistol but i guess i must be, can this be adjusted for? I would imagine that one uses these sights with both eye's open, would closing one eye make a difference or would the sighting be the same regardless? I'd sure appreciate any help as to how best to use/learn/adjust to the sight. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Mayer, when I first got mine five years ago, it would take me three seconds to find the dot Once I started to dry fire (practice the draw in my house without ammo), it took a few weeks, but then the dot became apparent a lot faster . If the dot is in the lower third of the eyepiece, just raise the muzzle a little, and it should be centered. Takes a little practice - I also index the dot on the knob that sticks up from the sight - visual clue as to where the dot will appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56hawk Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 My best suggestion is to practice more. The C-more is much higher than iron sights, so you are probably tilting your head too far forward. A few days of practicing your draw and it should seem pretty natural. As far as both eyes open, you should be shooting that way with or without a dot. The difference is you can focus on the target instead of the sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 The module is visable slightly at in the bottom of the scope, it what I use to find the dot shooting weak hand. Might help you find the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 dry fire practice and drills would be the best route to take. A forum member here suggested that I practice my draw with my eyes closed, draw...bring the gun up to a firing position and open my eyes to see where my arms/hands settled my dot and adjust from there. I still do that drill religiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanttolearn Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 thanks everyone...i'll work on it. appreciate the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk94 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 +1 dry fire practice. Will become second nature to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I found its easier to find the dot if I have a target to index to. I visually focus on the target, present the gun to it and the dot appears though not as precise as I wanted to (initially). I thought it was just a fluke or "trick of the day" as I came from yrs of shooting an iron sighted S_I gun then abruptly went to a red dotted Glock w/c we all know have very different grip angles between them. But its not. In less than ayear in Open, I very very seldom lose the dot w/ this technique even in weird shooting positions. I only "lose" it if I have no target to index on. I tried it and proved it to myself and others several times. Even the new comers to the dot and Glock, I tested it w/ my Glock open w/c has a very high cmore dot because I use a Carver hunter mount. The first few times they look for the dot w/o a target they fail 100% of the time. When I suggest to look at a target of their choice and generally aim the gun on it, at leat 50% of the time they see the dot appear on the target. And w/ repetition, their confidence grow, the dot appears w/ greater frequency. So, its not just me or a peculiar ability. Try it. Unfortunately for me, shooting Open is not just about finding the dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG164 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 The difference is you can focus on the target instead of the sights. I was under the impression you should be focussing on the front sight before anything else..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Not with a dot You focus on the target, and the dot gets superimposed on it Young guys like open because it's exciting, drag racing with guns, etc Old guys like it, because we can't see the damn sights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 An important thing to practice is acquiring the dot in unusual positions. Leaning around a wall, through a doorway, seated, crouched, etc. Even if you only ever shoot steel and don't need those positions in practice, being able to consistently find the dot under less-than-ideal conditions will help you find it under ideal conditions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Monster is so right. You need to practice in every comasutra position. I thought I had mastered it then the other day you started kneeling with gun at low ready, so buzzer goes off and I start standing up and can't find the fing dot. Nope I never practiced that start. Early on I would lose it after a reload, very fustrating so stand over the bed with a belt full of mags and practice. I didn't see it so I'll say it: "Don't short arm the gun". If you don't keep your arms extened then you will lose the dot. This happens when you crowd a port or a barricade, so keep the arms out no short arming. I was weak and gave up on the upright mount and got a Quinn. After a couple years I picked up a gun with an upright mount and shot it just fine, so truth is now known I gave up too easy. Edited December 1, 2012 by CocoBolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Dryfire and practicing your draws is the best way. I just went to a 90 degree mount as I swithch between open and irons depending on the sport(3gun and uspsa mainly) and match(ss/production only match), It was just much easier to do that with the 90 degree as it itdexed the same regardless of irons or cmore. If I shot open only there wasnt a problem with the verticle mount but switching it took a bit to adjust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatlakes08 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 After practicing quite a bit I still find the dot on the initial draw only 75% of the time. With my irons and a large FO front sight I am still quicker to get on target and fire my first shot. With the dot I seem to bobble trying to find the dot for the first shot which kills my times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 After practicing quite a bit I still find the dot on the initial draw only 75% of the time. With my irons and a large FO front sight I am still quicker to get on target and fire my first shot. With the dot I seem to bobble trying to find the dot for the first shot which kills my times. Give the 90 degree a try. It puts that glass right there where you iron sights are and no more searching for the dot when switching between irons and cmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I use a 90 degree mount and have found it much eaiser to find the dot in weird positions. It also makes the transition from open to limited much eaiser for me. I still dry fire to find the dot as fast as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatlakes08 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think dry firing and practice is what I need. NOw I just need the time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig N Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 An important thing to practice is acquiring the dot in unusual positions. Leaning around a wall, through a doorway, seated, crouched, etc. Even if you only ever shoot steel and don't need those positions in practice, being able to consistently find the dot under less-than-ideal conditions will help you find it under ideal conditions as well. This bit me HARD when I got my RMRed G34 and shot it at a match after a few days practice at home. Stand and deliver it was great! Around cover IDPA style was great........that plate rack through a low port and sweat in my eyes.......not much fun. You figure out real quick what you need to work on with picking up the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatlakes08 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Are the aimpoint micro and other tube style red dots easier to see than a cmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammar Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Are the aimpoint micro and other tube style red dots easier to see than a cmore? In my opinion, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatlakes08 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Anyone else using an aimpoint or tube sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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