BigStick Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Hey All, New to the forums and looking for info on 3Gun equipment. Ive pretty much got the pistol & shotty sorted out (XDM 5.25 9mm & FNH SLP Mk 1). The rifle is the final piece to my puzzle. I currently own two Spikes AR lowers, one stripped & one complete with Geissele SSA trigger. Been looking at getting a Stag 3G upper, as they are getting great reviews and for about $700, its well within my Wife's budget. Then, last week, I made the mistake of visiting a local custom rifle shop. The owner happened to have two fresh examples of the new Colt CRE-18 "RaceReadyRifle". Of course, both were already sold. This in fact probably saved my life as I would have slammed down $1500 right there and died a very violent death at home a short time later. Needless, I was REALLY impressed with the Colt, tho I havent been able to find much info on them, other than from the Colt web site. Anyone have any info/ experience with the Colt models? Should I just shelve the ego, and save some big green, and go with the Stag? Anyone know when Stag uppers will become available again? Any & all advice is appreciated. -Stick Edited May 7, 2012 by BigStick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickpony Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 You should also consider LOKI Weapon Systems in your serch for the perfect 3-Gun rifle. They sell their 3G model as a complete rifle or just an upper and have priced the pieces very well for what you get. Have a look at the link provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Damn, just looked up the Colt, some nice features there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) I just took delivery of my Loki customized 3-Gun rifle within the past hour (it's my Avatar image here). It's sick! 18" Satern barrel, billet receivers, AR Gold trigger, Magpul PRS stock, carbon fiber hand guard, etc, etc Seems like getting a nice upper for your already-complete lower with that trigger would be a great way to go. I think either the Stag 3G upper or an upper from Loki would be great options that would give high performance on a reasonable budget. Obviously I have more hands on time with the Loki gear. Their in-house 18" double fluted barrel with a carbon fiber hand guard should do nicely. Edited May 7, 2012 by michael1778 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wow, that CRE is impressive looking. Now that Colt has a sponsored shooter, I bet I know who will be winning some matches with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Here is a link to the Colt: http://coltcompetitionrifle.com/colt-expert-cre-18/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StravIs09 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 just a heads up the Stag 3g uppers are at least a 6 week wait before they will be able to ship them to you. i have been waiting... this is week 6 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStick Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 You should also consider lokiweaponsystems in your serch for the perfect 3-Gun rifle. They sell their 3G model as a complete rifle or just an upper and have priced the pieces very well for what you get. Have a look at the link provided. Yah, I've been to their site several times. At first the prices seem reasonable, but then start to ratchet up once you add exotic items like BCG's & charging handles. I know many folks have their own but geeWiz. The thing that REALLY impressed me about the Colt was the hand fitting & obvious quality control that went into the final product. -Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Stag is a good value but Colt also generally makes things to a higher standard with their quality control tests. (MP tested bolts barrels etc) Both good choices just different. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I have the Colt CR I got off the table at last years Pro/Am. Very nice rifle. I'll see if I can find the thread, had parts list & pics in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Stag is a good value but Colt also generally makes things to a higher standard with their quality control tests. (MP tested bolts barrels etc) Both good choices just different. Pat Pat, quality control has nothing to do with how well something is manufactured. One could even argue that a company that makes superb parts needs less quality control than a company with greater variance in their parts. Yes, Colt and Stag both make great rifles. But I reject the idea that a bolt or barrel that is MP tested is any better than one that is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Stag is a good value but Colt also generally makes things to a higher standard with their quality control tests. (MP tested bolts barrels etc) Both good choices just different. Pat Pat, quality control has nothing to do with how well something is manufactured. One could even argue that a company that makes superb parts needs less quality control than a company with greater variance in their parts. Yes, Colt and Stag both make great rifles. But I reject the idea that a bolt or barrel that is MP tested is any better than one that is not. I feel a lot better with MP tested bolts and barrels. One of my squad members at the Texas multigun match showed me a bolt he had that had broken in two. That would not have happened had it been tested. Quality control testing just gives the end consumer less of a chance of getting a lemon. Basically a bolt and barrel that is not tested may be equal to one that is but your taking a chance that its not. Call it peace of mind. I do respect your difference of opinion however. To each his own. Pat Edited May 12, 2012 by Alaskapopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Stag is a good value but Colt also generally makes things to a higher standard with their quality control tests. (MP tested bolts barrels etc) Both good choices just different. Pat Pat, quality control has nothing to do with how well something is manufactured. One could even argue that a company that makes superb parts needs less quality control than a company with greater variance in their parts. Yes, Colt and Stag both make great rifles. But I reject the idea that a bolt or barrel that is MP tested is any better than one that is not. I have not owned a Stag rifle, but have not heard anything but good from the people that I know who do own them. I have several Colts (I like things with horses on them). Colt does not necessarily have better quality than many other manufacturers (depends on who was working and when it was made). I do like the idea of MP testing, I liken it to Hypotting Medium Voltage cables, Megging Switchgear buss and Motors prior to energizing. It doesn't make the connections any better, but it is just one more safeguard (even with testing, I will use a "chicken switch" to close on it the first time) Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Going over the specs on the Colt it looks like the Stag is a better value. The Stag has better components at a lower price Stag is a good value but Colt also generally makes things to a higher standard with their quality control tests. (MP tested bolts barrels etc) Both good choices just different. Pat Pat, quality control has nothing to do with how well something is manufactured. One could even argue that a company that makes superb parts needs less quality control than a company with greater variance in their parts. Yes, Colt and Stag both make great rifles. But I reject the idea that a bolt or barrel that is MP tested is any better than one that is not. I feel a lot better with MP tested bolts and barrels. One of my squad members at the Texas multigun match showed me a bolt he had that had broken in two. That would not have happened had it been tested. Quality control testing just gives the end consumer less of a chance of getting a lemon. Basically a bolt and barrel that is not tested may be equal to one that is but your taking a chance that its not. Call it peace of mind. I do respect your difference of opinion however. To each his own. Pat That I can agree with, Pat. MP testing is kind of like insurance. Hurley- you're speaking my language. As for a chicken switch- I use an apprentice! (just kidding!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 A buddy of mine just ordered a Stag 3G and is waiting for it to come in. They are popular enough right now there is quite a wait. I am looking forward to seeing one in person. I do like Stags rifles and parts. I have used their stuff a lot in the Obama scare to build rifles. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promod1385 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hey All, New to the forums and looking for info on 3Gun equipment. Ive pretty much got the pistol & shotty sorted out (XDM 5.25 9mm & FNH SLP Mk 1). The rifle is the final piece to my puzzle. I currently own two Spikes AR lowers, one stripped & one complete with Geissele SSA trigger. Been looking at getting a Stag 3G upper, as they are getting great reviews and for about $700, its well within my Wife's budget. Then, last week, I made the mistake of visiting a local custom rifle shop. The owner happened to have two fresh examples of the new Colt CRE-18 "RaceReadyRifle". Of course, both were already sold. This in fact probably saved my life as I would have slammed down $1500 right there and died a very violent death at home a short time later. Needless, I was REALLY impressed with the Colt, tho I havent been able to find much info on them, other than from the Colt web site. Anyone have any info/ experience with the Colt models? Should I just shelve the ego, and save some big green, and go with the Stag? Anyone know when Stag uppers will become available again? Any & all advice is appreciated. -Stick What was the street price on these Colts? How long was his order out there? I talked to my FFL and he said they are showing no availability on that sku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStick Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 What was the street price on these Colts? How long was his order out there? I talked to my FFL and he said they are showing no availability on that sku. He was selling them for $1485, cheaper than anywhere else i've seen. Had a long waiting list for the next ones in stock. FWIW, I just purchased a Stag 3G upper. "Ammo Bros" in LA actually had a few of the rifles & uppers in stock. Should be here in a week or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepswithdogs Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have not owned a Stag rifle, but have not heard anything but good from the people that I know who do own them. I have several Colts (I like things with horses on them). Colt does not necessarily have better quality than many other manufacturers (depends on who was working and when it was made). I do like the idea of MP testing, I liken it to Hypotting Medium Voltage cables, Megging Switchgear buss and Motors prior to energizing. It doesn't make the connections any better, but it is just one more safeguard (even with testing, I will use a "chicken switch" to close on it the first time) Hurley HRider, my thoughts exactly. Colt looks nice, wonder what chamber they are using? SWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRider Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I have not owned a Stag rifle, but have not heard anything but good from the people that I know who do own them. I have several Colts (I like things with horses on them). Colt does not necessarily have better quality than many other manufacturers (depends on who was working and when it was made). I do like the idea of MP testing, I liken it to Hypotting Medium Voltage cables, Megging Switchgear buss and Motors prior to energizing. It doesn't make the connections any better, but it is just one more safeguard (even with testing, I will use a "chicken switch" to close on it the first time) Hurley HRider, my thoughts exactly. Colt looks nice, wonder what chamber they are using? SWD According to the web site, they are using a 223 wylde chamber. A quick check of Gunbroker shows two auctions for the Colt CRE-18, one for $1399 and one for $1599. Hurley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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