Chuck D Posted July 7, 2004 Share Posted July 7, 2004 For 5 months now...been looking for a job. A.S. Degree in Law/Criminal Justice. 3.80 GPA Clean Criminal Record, Clean Credit Check, References Galore. Extensive "volunteer/internship" record with Legal Agencies. 2/3rds financial "ride" to a major University. Still no luck. Well...there is always criminal activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Chuck, Take your CJ degree and apply for a job in law enforcement. Spend 3-5 years doing that while finishing your 4 year degree. Go to law school and pass the bar exam. Retire at 40. Fanciful huh? I have a lawyer friend who did just that. Except he didn't retire at 40, he has hung in there and he's mid 50's now. Not making light of your plight. I finally finished college with a BS in Management at the prime age of 47. If I hadn't already had a career established, I probably would have starved looking for a job. Good luck!!! dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_round Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Hang in there. It will work out. Just don't give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Chuck,Take your CJ degree and apply for a job in law enforcement. Spend 3-5 years doing that while finishing your 4 year degree. Go to law school and pass the bar exam. Retire at 40. Listen to DJ - damn good advise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 I'm too old for an LE job (38 years old...need to be 34 or under in NY State) but I'm pushing HARD for an opening somewhere in a related field. Thanks for the support ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 how does executive security sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 Anything "security related" sounds good... but no luck so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Join the club. Try finding an entry level position in mechanical engineering. Been looking for about a year now, that's why I'm in grad school to keep myself busy. A friend of mine went through law school and still took her a year to find a job. Now she's facing a possible lay off because she works for the county government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S. Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Hi. Ever consider teaching in public schools? There is a course called "Law and Public Safety". My understanding of it is as follows, which may or may not be correct: 1) Three years of law enforcement experience--your degree in CJ might be an acceptable substitute. 2) Hold an instructor's certificate. Obtainable in a few weeks at a Police Academy. 3) Pass the "Praxis I", a test of basic math, reading, writing. I think you have a year to take the test after employment. Not sure if it would all apply in your area, but it may be something to look at if you're interested in this sort of thing. Luck. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Chuck, Look at various federal agencies (DOJ, DOE, FBI, FAA, etc.). They are almost always hiring. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 That is precisely the reason I decided not to go to college to pursue a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Might also consider substitute teaching in the local public schools while you're looking. Around here, they pay $60 - $80 day. Depending on the BOE, you need like 2 years worth of college credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 That is precisely the reason I decided not to go to college to pursue a career. Bad Move Jake. Really bad move. I made the same decision and am paying sorely for it now by trying to get my damned degree while holding down a full time job, a part time job, a housewife job and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Jake, two words: Electrical Engineer There is a dire shortage of EE's (and most other highly technical disciplines) and will be for a loooong time to come in the US. Chemistry, Biology, Electrical Engineering, and Computer Engineering are all good choices for careers if you decide not to be an independent businessman. Whatever you do, we'll still love ya man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Looking for a job., What good is a College degree? Instead of the low class: "Dya want fries wid dat?" You will be able to ask: "May I offer you some fried potatoes this evening, sir?" It just classes up the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 There is a dire shortage of EE's MYTH MYTH MYTH MYTH MYTH MYTH MYTH The visa loophole has been abused to the point where we have tons of EE's and can quickly get more from China and India who will work for cheap to keep their work visa. I couldn't throw a paper clip from my cubicle in any direction without hitting six of them. I have been an EE for 28 years and I can say this without fear of contradiction: You want a REALLY high paying job where you can work whatever shift or hours you want? NURSE NURSE NURSE NURSE NURSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Or, you could do what I do. Be an errand boy sent by grocery clerks. Only 7 years of school required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBaneACP Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 I, too, wandered away before they handed me a degree. The only job I ever lost because of it was when I had almost managed to scam a gig as "Writer In Residence" for one of those sunshine colleges in Florida--Daddy got enough money, you get a degree. The student body, especially the female part, was amazing--bronze, beautiful, enhanced and with the IQ of cocker spaniels.They were talking about $50K for "facilitating" two seminars. I figured I'd buy a cord jacket with those suede elbow patches, a fake pipe and talk about how writing was a mirror of the soul. So I'm at a faculty party in full BS mode just before the papers got cut, and someone asked me where I got my degree. Stupid me told the truth. I shoulda said "Haaavaaard." mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Actually I'm in the process of owning and operating five serperate business now. All of which don't require me to have anything more than common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Jake Hope your serperate businesses don't require you to spell Brother don't leave an opening like that on this forum...you will get buried... Hope you know I am kidding, but couldn't overlook an opportunity like that...congratulations on owning your own businesses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rising Sight Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 I am a machinist and have no idea what I would do if I lost my job. My wife on the other hand is a Registered Nurse. The medical field just seems to be loaded with job openings. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 I've got nothing bad to say about the degree, especially the degree process. Where else would I learn gemcutting or Mayan heiroglyphics? College is an excellent experience in how to learn. However, were I going back again, I'd think twice about the Comp Sci degree again. It worked well for me, but since it's one of those jobs that can be done anywhere, it can be done anywhere, including lower overhead places like India or Russia or China or whoever is trying to out-compete them next. Look for something that is best done locally. Medical & Legal always seem to be in demand. Pilots get lots of free time (and good pay), as do firefighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidwiz Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The legal field is not in demand. Maybe if you're in a support capacity such as a paralegal or secretary (sorry, administrative assistant), but not for an attorney. In NJ alone, over 1,200 people were admitted to the bar last year. Do you think that there were 1,200 new attorney job openings last year in NJ? Even before the economy headed south a few years ago, law firms where cutting back on new hires, concentrating mostly on lateral hires - which causes a conundrum - the only way to get a job is to have experience (lateral hire), but the only way to get experience is to get a job out of law school, which there are very few of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Nursing and civil engineering are the two hot jobs right now. Medical field tend not be affected by economy as much. Civil engineers are in great demand. All other engineering jobs are going to India. The current trend is to send it off to India. They get it 90% done, then it is sent back to the US where an American licensed engineer finishes up the rest and put their name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 I spent the first two years of my enlistment working in a grocery store. I managed a grocery section that sold $1.2M in product every month (military commissary so no profit). Within three months I had job offers from two distributors and four national companies to be sales representative for the SW region of the country. My fellow military members used to laugh at me. People have to eat. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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