Ian_ Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Is it possible to have a squib and have the slide cycle? or will you always have to manually eject the empty casing as the second tell (the first being the bloop sound)? Very best, ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I've never seen it personally but I have heard of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I've seen it happen to the same guy twice (not me!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It may depend on your definition of "squib". I would imagine that if the load has enough power to cycle the slide, the bullet would be pushed out of the barrel??? And, to me, that's not a squib ... Not enough powder to cycle the slide or push the bullet out of the barrel. That's MY squib. I may be wrong - but I can't imagine a squib can cycle the slide and leave a bullet in the barrel .... I stand to be corrected:( Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Woo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 YES! My friend ruined the barrel on a new XDm Comp .40 that way. He was getting progressively smaller powder charges using a Lee press. He did not realize it had happen until he was cleaning the gun later and found the barrel bulged. Looked like a snake that ate a rat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flb Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Is it possible to have a squib and have the slide cycle? or will you always have to manually eject the empty casing as the second tell (the first being the bloop sound)? Very best, ian Yes, it happened to me the firsy year I started shooting bullseye. I was lucky the person next to me noticed the sound (I did not) and stopped me from fireing the next shot. I did not notice any difference when the shoot was fired. The bullet was about 2 inches in the barrel and the nexted round chambered. Canthit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant81 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 As long as I stay away from the bottom of the scale powder wise, I should be pretty safe from squibs right? Squibs are the only thing that worry me about getting into reloading. When shooting competition I don't even hear my rounds I'm so tunneled into shot placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBandit Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 As long as I stay away from the bottom of the scale powder wise, I should be pretty safe from squibs right? Squibs are the only thing that worry me about getting into reloading. When shooting competition I don't even hear my rounds I'm so tunneled into shot placement. I would say it's more about paying attention. I think most squibs are from just a complete lack of powder. If you have a progressive BE SURE NOT TO SHORT STROKE IT. I've seen one that had contaminated powder too, when the guy drove the bullet out there was powder stuck to the base and and some flakes were coming out of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 As long as I stay away from the bottom of the scale powder wise, I should be pretty safe from squibs right? No, squibs are usually made by not paying attention to the reloading process - should be able to look into case and see the level of powder each time. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yeah, usually you lose track of what you are doing while reloading and forget to verify powder level. That's why when you reload, lock yourself away, turn off everything including your phone and just concentrate on your task. Here is a good thread on some others experience with squibs: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=112418&st=0&p=1276393&hl=+squib%20+eject&fromsearch=1entry1276393 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sin-ster Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) What boz1911 reports in the previously linked thread is my only "hands on" experience with it as well-- and with WWB, no less. I was actually on shot 3 or 4 of a Bill Drill, and noticed the difference in the charge-- the front post moved straight back and straight forward, with no lift or flip at all. I immediately stopped, despite being in the midst of sub-.2 splits, and checked the barrel. Prior to that, I always feared that I'd be blazing away and run into the squib that chambers a fresh round behind it. Now, I'm not the least bit concerned that I'll miss it-- especially since I'm that much more in tune with what's going on with my front sight! Edited February 28, 2012 by Sin-ster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant81 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd actually thought about maybe trying to intentionally load something light enough to cause a squib just so I knew what it felt like. Then fire them at the range under controlled 'one at a time, then check the barrel' type of setup. I don't plan to reload on anything I can't use a powder check die on, and then my soul purpose in life will be to watch that die and check OAL when I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Is it possible to have a squib and have the slide cycle? Ian, my squibs have all occured and the slide did NOT cycle, but since I was shooting rapidly, I cycled the slide automatically to "clear the jam" and keep shooting rapidly. Fortunately, both times, the bullet was near the chamber and did not allow the live round to fully chamber, or I would have pulled the trigger ( Now I know what it looks and feels like - so I'm more careful in shooting rapidly and in reloading. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_ Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I've had a grand total of 2 squibs. Being new to pistol, I'm just trying to be a little extra safe. Not sure how it will work in competition, but if I get a failure to cycle, I will be doing a barrel check, safe keeps me typing with two hands! Very best, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy kemlo Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It happened to me last week at an indoor match. I had a squib that ejected the round. and fed the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmp32 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I had some squibs with both a Lee Turret Press and a SDB. I sold the SDB and I am getting a Hornady 5 station press. An SO at a recent match had a Squib, failed to act on the "difference" and ruined the barrel of $1500 gun. He loads an a SDB. Anyway, I am also going to use the RCBS Lock-Out Die which I ordered with the press: http://ultimatereloader.com/2010/09/19/rcbs-lock-out-die-part-i-theory-of-operation/ While using it won't excuse inattentiveness, It will help to prevent re-loading maladies that can arise when rolling your own. Edited March 1, 2012 by hmp32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_ Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 That lock out is pretty cool! I buy supplies from a commercial reloader and his machines have similar. I'll have to read more on it. I know where my squibs came from, Winchester brass with sticky primers! Sometimes takes me 3 or 4 or more passes in the deprime to get the factory primers out. Which means I have to pull shells out and get out of sequence (Dillon 550b) and then when it all gets going again I'm not paying enough attention. All my fault, time to pay better attention! I have seen folks that mount a small flash light to shine right in the shell so that powder level is very visible, may do that. I also use a high volume powder, so more evidence I'm to blame. Appreciate all the feedback, not sure if I'm more at ease or freaked out! Very best, Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I'd actually thought about maybe trying to intentionally load something light enough to cause a squib just so I knew what it felt like. Then fire them at the range under controlled 'one at a time, then check the barrel' type of setup. I have done this. It is good to know what a squib feels like in your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaster113 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 when I first started loading on my 550 years ago I had that happen to me. was loading rifle rounds on a single stage prior to that. had a squib, either no or low powder charge. bullet lodged in the barrel, slide cycled and fired another round which then bulged the barrel. lucky I didnt blow up the gun or any body parts. was having priming issues with the 550 and I failed to double check the powder charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebridge Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 i had my first two weeks ago, sounded like a wooden dowel slapped my slide so i looked, no ejection for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant81 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 you load them too heavy, the gun explodes, you load them too light, you get a squib, and the next round makes the gun explode maybe I should stick to factory ammo. lol I'm starting to scare myself away from reloading. At least with shooting factory loads, I can maybe get the ammo company to pay for some medical bills if I need them from a KB. I'm not really able to do that if I load my own. On the other hand there are people hand loading 100's of millions of rounds a year without anymore incidents than really anything else so it's probably fine as long as I pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Do you get in a car everyday? Percentage wise that's a lot more dangerous... Just focus and take your time... Stick to whatver pace you are comfortable with... The more you reload the more comfortable you will be... Just be careful that comfortable never turns into careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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