spanky Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I know it can be done as I've seen it and been told what was used but I don't know the specifics. I was told that "old" glock 357 mags with arrendondo basepads were used but I'm not sure which 357 tubes were used. Anyone here have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I've got a couple of those bodies at work. Let me play with them tomorrow or Friday and I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 My guess would be the tubes were the same as the LEO marked 40 tubes. The are more squared up at the top and not tapered as much as the newer mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Extreme follower mods! I can get 20 in my mags and the follower is giant. If I cut it in half maybe I could get more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 I have 3 40 mags I got from Sean Gaines that all hold 20 but if I can fit an extra round in them then I'd be a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 I've got a couple of those bodies at work. Let me play with them tomorrow or Friday and I'll let you know. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I had one I made that would go 21 just to see if I could but just wasn't worth it. Follower was modified and the spring was the factory spring. Barely held 21 but to feed it needed 165 grain blazer aluminum ammo to keep the weight of the ammo at a min due to the way underpowered mag spring. Mag was not very reliable at all as the slide would come so close to outrunning the mag spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Is it really a deal breaker if they only hold 20, that is 2 and a half arrays under current rules. My Arrendondo's hold 20 but they aren't reloadable except at slide lock. There is almost always some where to do a reload so I am not going to hack up the follower for an extra round only to have the rounds jam in the mag. There are times when if it aint broke don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkballedtarget Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Is it really a deal breaker if they only hold 20, that is 2 and a half arrays under current rules. My Arrendondo's hold 20 but they aren't reloadable except at slide lock. There is almost always some where to do a reload so I am not going to hack up the follower for an extra round only to have the rounds jam in the mag. There are times when if it aint broke don't fix it. Iam in the same boat.. My dawsons will hold 20, but are only reloadable when the slide is back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Is it really a deal breaker if they only hold 20, that is 2 and a half arrays under current rules. My Arrendondo's hold 20 but they aren't reloadable except at slide lock. There is almost always some where to do a reload so I am not going to hack up the follower for an extra round only to have the rounds jam in the mag. There are times when if it aint broke don't fix it. no, not at all. but if i can have one or two that hold 21 giving me 22 for an 18-22 round stage it's all the merrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biloxi23 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I've got two magazines with Arrendondo bottoms and extremely modified followers that will hold 20. But, and it is a big but, they are not reliable. Saturday at the Gator I started one stage with one, and encountered a type of malfunction (FTF) that I never had before. The round that failed to feed was almost stright up and down, and teh sides of the case were generally paralell to the sides of the mag. I've tried Wolff springs and ISMI springs and even Arrendondo followers, and have problems when loading over 18. I have Dawson bases with moderately modified followers and ISMI springs which although they will only (I never thought I would refer to "only" holding 18) hold 18, function flawlessly. After taking about 10 seconds to get that malfunction cleared, I went with Dawson bases and 18 rounds for the rest of the match and never had a malfunction. I was still pretty slow, but not because of the magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Wow. My Dawson padded mags are holding 19 easy(reloadable) and 20 to start if I need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Try an NDF mag and dish out the follower (or try a dished out 9mm follower). Search this forum with me as the poster and "21" as the key word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbear Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 A few of mine will hold 20. What i do is start with 20 in mag one in chamber then load rest to 18 as they never give me problems during reload like the ones i tried to reload when 20 where in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remington4Life Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 can I get 21 in a 10mm mag too? 22? What base pad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hefta Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Wow. My Dawson padded mags are holding 19 easy(reloadable) and 20 to start if I need to. I can fit 20 in mine with the Dawson base pads. I only load 19 in them though, the gun runs better for me. 20 at the start is good enough for me, I am used to shooting Lim 10 and Production anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Same. I only load up to 20+1 on the rare 20 or 21 round stage....or a 19 round stage with hard shots....or an 18 round stage with lots of steel. :roflol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 (edited) Interesting, my arredondo base pads all easily hold 20 reloadable. They are more like 20 and 1/2 capacity. I didn't think it would take much to get that extra 1/2. Edited October 29, 2011 by feederic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diversmith Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Interesting, my arredondo base pads all easily hold 20 reloadable. They are more like 20 and 1/2 capacity. I didn't think it would take much to get that extra 1/2. This is my experience as well with the Arredondos... I have at least 10 set up like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildkow Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I use the Taylor-Freelance brass floor-plate and I can get 19 in one and 20 in the other. The 20 round mag will not reload unless at slidelock. I like them because of the additional weight the brass gives me. I suppose if I knew someone with a mill they could take a few hundreds off the bottom of the floor-plate and get me to 20 rounds with no FTF problems but I'm going to Open and Glock makes a 165mm 22 round mag now. I talked to Robyn at Taylor-Freelance and sent him a mag, he's looking into slightly modding a bling floor-plate to see if an extra round or two can be added without breaking the Open 170mm mag length rule. I'll post a thread when I know. Happy Thanksgiving to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Spanky, yes it can be done. Best bet for reliabiltiy is a non-drop free mag and a Taylor Freelance base pad. I use the new followers modified by trimming just a few mm off the back wings. I use a new ISMI +5 spring unmoddifed. I have also milled out the inside of the TF basepad. I assembly the mag minus the spring and follower and use a micro grinder with a sanding wheel through the mouth of the mag to smooth the transitions from the pad to the magazine body. I use a barney mag to load and then put in the 21 rounder. I have used it in a total of 10 courses of fire over 10 years. I have 2 with TF pads that hold 20 reloadable with the older style basepads. The new ones all go 20 reloadable with no mods. I use those quite a bit more. While I like the Arredondos for many reasons, the TF pads, made of acetal are much more rigid and can be hogged out without making them prone to blow out. IF you angle grind the top of the NDF mags, they will drop free with 4 rounds or less in the tube BTW. I know Robin has a few of the old TF NDF pads around: http://www.taylorfreelance.com/ bottom for the page. I have a few NDF magazines if you want to try it yourself, LMK and I'll send you a magazine. Just a thanks for all your posts on stages and Sketchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 ...but I'm going to Open and Glock makes a 165mm 22 round mag now. Just FYI, those mags were not reliable for me at all. I tired all sorts of modifications with stock, +1, +2, and +4 pads. My understanding is they were made for a LE contract, the agency had reliability issues and so Glock sold them to the general public. 15 round bodies with +8 TF pads were 100% reliable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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