spanky Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I thought the Virginia Count stage and the one next to it at the Production Nationals (4 targets at about 15 yards) were classifiers...? Those two stages are not current classifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 We are paying them for a service, no matter how anyone wants to slice it, and they made the contract stating when each month that the service would be done. They have not fulfilled their part of the contract, but I'm quite sure our monies are in their purses.... I don't know if alot of people realize this or not, but in order to have your classifier uploaded and for it to count it has to be paid for. From your entry fee the club has to pay USPSA to accept your classifier score. My point exactly...We paid to have them uploaded, on or about the 15th of each month.... Within 30 days of the match, the clubs must send in a classification report, which can be generated automatically by the USPSA EzWinScore program, and $3.00 per competitor per division to cover costs of the administering the classification system. In addition, the $3.00 fee is due for each division regardless of whether the competitor shot all stages or just the classifier stage. All valid classification scores received at National Headquarters by the 10th of each month are entered into the computer before the classification program calculates averages, unless there is a problem with the paperwork submitted by the club. For an understanding of what constitutes a valid score, read the section on the "Flagging System" on page 7. After the scores have been entered and verified as correct, the computer calculates a current average for those who have become eligible for a classification and generates a classification card. These cards are mailed out around the 15th of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I just called Val. She verified all the scores this morning. Roger just got back in the office from Nationals. He now has the scores and the update will likely occur either this afternoon or tomorrow, per Val. Val, and for that matter all the staff at HQ, have always been very open and available any time I've called. Including before I was an AD. Rather than lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks, a call might have been easier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I just called Val. She verified all the scores this morning. Roger just got back in the office from Nationals. He now has the scores and the update will likely occur either this afternoon or tomorrow, per Val. Val, and for that matter all the staff at HQ, have always been very open and available any time I've called. Including before I was an AD. Rather than lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks, a call might have been easier? Chuck, why should a call have even been necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigfish73 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Not saying it was necessary. Val even said it would have been good to have posted the schedule on the website. But think about the amount of time you guys have put in reading this thread and posting. If someone had made a call or sent an email rather than complaining on an internet forum with no affiliation with USPSA it would have been a non issue. You're always welcome to complain and spend your time that way. But if you wanted an answer it was easily available. Edited September 27, 2011 by Chuck Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Not saying it was necessary. Val even said it would have been good to have posted the schedule on the website. But think about the amount of time you guys have put in reading this thread and posting. If someone had made a call or sent an email rather than complaining on an internet forum with no affiliation with USPSA it would have been a non issue. You're always welcome to complain and spend your time that way. But if you wanted an answer it was easily available. We didn't want an answer....we wanted the data updated....and no call would have gotten that until Nats was over....Which is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Not saying it was necessary. Val even said it would have been good to have posted the schedule on the website. But think about the amount of time you guys have put in reading this thread and posting. If someone had made a call or sent an email rather than complaining on an internet forum with no affiliation with USPSA it would have been a non issue. You're always welcome to complain and spend your time that way. But if you wanted an answer it was easily available. We didn't want an answer....we wanted the data updated....and no call would have gotten that until Nats was over....Which is wrong... +1 maybe a little bitching about it is exactly what needed to be done and that the office and BOD hears that it is not acceptable to not communicate this type of stuff Edited September 27, 2011 by JakeMartens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I just called Val. She verified all the scores this morning. Roger just got back in the office from Nationals. He now has the scores and the update will likely occur either this afternoon or tomorrow, per Val. Val, and for that matter all the staff at HQ, have always been very open and available any time I've called. Including before I was an AD. Rather than lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks, a call might have been easier? To be fair, the original post was on the 15th and was an idle question - not one that I thought (at the time) was worth calling the office for. The conversation that followed was just guys at the bar with a common interest. No torches and pitchforks, just a common concern. Given the number of SCs, ADs, staff, etc who post here regularly, it seemed like an appropriate place to ask a question or express a concern. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I just called Val. She verified all the scores this morning. Roger just got back in the office from Nationals. He now has the scores and the update will likely occur either this afternoon or tomorrow, per Val. Val, and for that matter all the staff at HQ, have always been very open and available any time I've called. Including before I was an AD. Rather than lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks, a call might have been easier? What? Stop being serious and logical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I just called Val. She verified all the scores this morning. Roger just got back in the office from Nationals. He now has the scores and the update will likely occur either this afternoon or tomorrow, per Val. Val, and for that matter all the staff at HQ, have always been very open and available any time I've called. Including before I was an AD. Rather than lighting the torches and sharpening the pitchforks, a call might have been easier? To be fair, the original post was on the 15th and was an idle question - not one that I thought (at the time) was worth calling the office for. The conversation that followed was just guys at the bar with a common interest. No torches and pitchforks, just a common concern. Given the number of SCs, ADs, staff, etc who post here regularly, it seemed like an appropriate place to ask a question or express a concern. BB No worries, it was a fair question. And a decent place to ask. If I hadn't been running around Vegas for the last week and a half I'd have probably called earlier to get you an answer. Just wanted the folks who were really concerned to know how to get an answer on their own if they cared to enough to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Folks, this Forum isn't here for a place to rant about customer service issues. It is here to share information to help us shooter better. If you have an issue with product or service, please get in touch with person/company/organization directly. -Admin. (At first, I closed this thread because it had turned to ranting. I re-opened it so that information can be shared. Don't rant in it again. If you have a post with good info, please share that. Thanks.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Guess it'll be 2mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The next update is a little over two weeks away. I have to wonder if they will feel it's not worth doing at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The next update is a little over two weeks away. I have to wonder if they will feel it's not worth doing at this point. No need to wonder. Read post # 78. Chuck actually called and got info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Good to know that an update will be performed soon. I wonder if the staff is aware that the membership is concerned with the delay and it's affect on placement at the nationals and will attempt to do something about it next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Good to know that an update will be performed soon. I wonder if the staff is aware that the membership is concerned with the delay and it's affect on placement at the nationals and will attempt to do something about it next time. This is a semi-regular occurrence, depending on the scheduling of the Nationals. If any of you are unhappy with the way that USPSA handled that process this year or in the past, I encourage you to contact your area directors ideally with a concrete plan for a change..... Those are the folks with the ability to direct the way the organization works and implements policy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 If any of you are unhappy with the way that USPSA handled that process this year or in the past, I encourage you to contact your area directors ideally with a concrete plan for a change..... Now how in the heck are we supposed to know what their personnel schedule is for next time this happens? Making a "concrete plan" from the outside would be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer377 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 What time in the morning does the update usually show up? It's only 7 AM out on the left coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 What time in the morning does the update usually show up? It's only 7 AM out on the left coast. I've seen it well before that time in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Little known tidbit... If you are running a Major match, the office will run an update on those in your match if you (Match Director) request it. They have certainly done this at past Nationals. ...where shooters have shown up and are welcomed into their new class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeInNePa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Now? How about now? Not yet? Now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediTodd Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Nope. Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawthorne2k Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Now? How about now? Not yet? Now? Heh. I'm turning into my kids over this: "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? How much further? Are we there yet?" Further proof that while I may have grown older, I haven't quite grown up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeShot Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this thread so I'll forget about it....seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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