XDman Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Trying to find one powder for both my guns. I was going to use N320, but cant find any locally. Have some on order but no idea when I will get it. So I am looking for a backup powder. Bullet weights are as follows: 9mm minor for production XD Tactical 5in MG 147gr cmj 40 S&W major for Limited STI 5in. MG 200gr cmj Have thought about Hodgdon Clays or Titegroup. Looking for something clean burning as my old powder was N350, and really gunked up the chamber after about 100 rounds. Incomplete burn. Edited June 10, 2011 by XDman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Vigilante Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Don't think I would use Clays for .40 Major-ok for .40 Minor but could be dangerous for .40 Major. YMMV Edited June 10, 2011 by The_Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avezorak Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) 40 major and a 200 grainer with Clays would be too much pressure IMO. Try Solo 1000. I run 4.5 grains under my 180 BBI's at 1.135 to make major out of my 4.5 XDM. Ive seen quite a few 9mm loads with Solo 1k but I have yet to develop one for myself. Edited June 10, 2011 by Avezorak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Titegroup A bit dirty but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 nowadays just VV320 and solo 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Solo 1000 works for me... Trying to find one powder for both my guns. I was going to use N320, but cant find any locally. Have some on order but no idea when I will get it. So I am looking for a backup powder. Bullet weights are as follows: 9mm minor for production XD Tactical 5in MG 147gr cmj 40 S&W major for Limited STI 5in. MG 200gr cmj Have thought about Hodgdon Clays or Titegroup. Looking for something clean burning as my old powder was N350, and really gunked up the chamber after about 100 rounds. Incomplete burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMC Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Titegroup 4.3 with 180's for major 40 4.0 with 124's for minor 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neomet Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Solo. Works great for both. Edited June 11, 2011 by Neomet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 WST works great in both with the bullets you've listed. Only problem with WST is its an inverse powder; in other words the colder the outside temp the hotter the load. So the reverse applies; the hotter the outside temp the lower the velocity (I live in Northern Illinois). The shooters that I shoot with that use 9mm and the MG 147gr bullet use 3.3 grains of WST and it makes about a 140pf. I shoot a 40sw and use 4.6 grains of WST and both MG 200gr cmj and Zero 200gr fmj. It makes about a 170pf. I shoot the MG indoors and the Zero's outdoors. But when it gets in the 90's I'm real close to going minor with the same charge. If you try WST please start the powder charges lower on both and work up to the loads I've listed. WST works real good in my Dillon 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Yep. S1K. The more I use it the more I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 AA #5 and Win 231 are two decent choices for both of those calibers. I used them for years before going on to VV powders. Maybe not the best but they will definitely get the job done and they are almost always available in almost any reloader supply store... Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 2nd vote for WST. That's what I use in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmw5142 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Solo 1K works great for both. I use 3.5gr with a BBI and 3.8gr with a Montana Gold 147gr. for production/ssp. With a 180gr BBI 4.6gr and with a 180gr zero JHP 5.0gr. for Limited Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Universal Clays works great for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Universal Clays works great for both. That's what I was going to say. I've loaded 9mm minor 124gr and 147gr with Universal...and just checked Hodgdon's data to see that it should make major with .40 easily. As an added bonus, double charges should be glaringly obvious...though possible to fit with heavier bullet weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 That's what I was going to say. I've loaded 9mm minor 124gr and 147gr with Universal...and just checked Hodgdon's data to see that it should make major with .40 easily. As an added bonus, double charges should be glaringly obvious...though possible to fit with heavier bullet weights. I have shot thousands of Limited Major loads with that powder - 180 grain bullets with 5.3gr of powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab25 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 That's what I was going to say. I've loaded 9mm minor 124gr and 147gr with Universal...and just checked Hodgdon's data to see that it should make major with .40 easily. As an added bonus, double charges should be glaringly obvious...though possible to fit with heavier bullet weights. I have shot thousands of Limited Major loads with that powder - 180 grain bullets with 5.3gr of powder. WOW 5.3 those must be hot loads. i am making major at 4.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 WOW 5.3 those must be hot loads. i am making major at 4.6 Probably depends on the gun, bullet and the batch of powder, mine admittedly were on the hot side, pf of 175, out of Glock 35 and Edge, but 5 grains were below major. Are you by any chance using lead bullets? Because with those I only needed 4.6gr for fp of 167. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 TG +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDman Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) WST works great in both with the bullets you've listed. Only problem with WST is its an inverse powder; in other words the colder the outside temp the hotter the load. So the reverse applies; the hotter the outside temp the lower the velocity (I live in Northern Illinois). The shooters that I shoot with that use 9mm and the MG 147gr bullet use 3.3 grains of WST and it makes about a 140pf. I shoot a 40sw and use 4.6 grains of WST and both MG 200gr cmj and Zero 200gr fmj. It makes about a 170pf. I shoot the MG indoors and the Zero's outdoors. But when it gets in the 90's I'm real close to going minor with the same charge. If you try WST please start the powder charges lower on both and work up to the loads I've listed. WST works real good in my Dillon 550. How clean is it in your guns? My XD Tactical is very picky! So far I see Solo 1000, but another thread indicates Solo is not the best choice for 40. I really need a clean burning powder with the bullet weights I indicated. Edited June 12, 2011 by XDman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksim Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 WSF = Winchester Super field. using it for 9mm, 40, 45 gap and 45 ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeechman Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 +1 on Solo 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 WST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddrod Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) TG, American Select, 231, Power Pistol, WSF, Unique, Universal, 4756, N310, N320, N340, Competition, Zip, Silhoutte, Solo 1000, WSt, Accurate #2 and #5, Green Dot. With proper load development they all work. Use what you can get cheaply and shoot it. It also depends on what type of recoil impulse you like. I stick with TG because I made a good deal on a bunch of it. Edited June 12, 2011 by toddrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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