Ahab Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 So, here's an interesting question I'm kicking around. Obviously, anyone that's taken the SO class knows that an SO doesn't have to TOUCH a shooter to interfere with them, but this came up in a discussion the other day. Say you're a non-smoker, and your S.O. is smoking WHILE he runs you through the course of fire. Some people are very sensitive to cigarette and cigar smoke. I'm a semi-reformed smoker, so I wouldn't necessarily consider it interference. However, I do think that if your SO is smoking, the shooter is well within their rights to request that the SO put their cig out before running the course of fire. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Never ran into an SO that was smoking while SOing. That being said- if a shooter is willing to breathe the crap the comes out of his gun... a little 2nd hand smoke from a cigar or cigarette isn't a big deal IMO. FWIW I don't smoke either and don't care for them. Nonissue- no way SO interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 If it bugs the shooter that much, he can always request to have another SO run him/her. Personally, it doesn't bother me even though I am not nor have I ever been a smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 If it bothers you, just politely ask if they could stop for a minute while you shoot. Most smokers know that smoke bothers some people and are accomodating. Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I am a smoker and and s o. I have never run a shooter while smoking in 5 years . I am not even sure how it can be properly done. 1 hand timer ,1 hand for procedurals or director shooter in safety situations and mouth to give commands . just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I am a smoker and and s o. I have never run a shooter while smoking in 5 years . I am not even sure how it can be properly done. 1 hand timer ,1 hand for procedurals or director shooter in safety situations and mouth to give commands . just my 2 cents I had an IDPA SO run me while smoking a cigarette, holding the timer and eating a hotdog. It can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejadoo Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Never ran into an SO that was smoking while SOing. That being said- if a shooter is willing to breathe the crap the comes out of his gun... a little 2nd hand smoke from a cigar or cigarette isn't a big deal IMO. FWIW I don't smoke either and don't care for them. Nonissue- no way SO interference. Personally I prefer the smell of the crap coming from my barrel over cigarette/cigarette smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr7070 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I've watched someone shoot a stage while smoking a pipe. He shot a revolver, though, so it "worked". Had it been a plstic gun I don't know that he could have pulled that off stylistically. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaritx Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I would put this into the "any excuse" area. If allowed, then "he was to good looking and distracted me" or "the SO was a beautiful lady and I was distracted" OK, I will use that next time and ask for a reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 So, here's an interesting question I'm kicking around. Obviously, anyone that's taken the SO class knows that an SO doesn't have to TOUCH a shooter to interfere with them, but this came up in a discussion the other day. Say you're a non-smoker, and your S.O. is smoking WHILE he runs you through the course of fire. Some people are very sensitive to cigarette and cigar smoke. I'm a semi-reformed smoker, so I wouldn't necessarily consider it interference. However, I do think that if your SO is smoking, the shooter is well within their rights to request that the SO put their cig out before running the course of fire. Thoughts? What if the shooter is smoking and it bothers the SO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg K Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 OK, I will use that next time and ask for a reshoot And since the law of re-shoots is still in effect, your second run through would stink more than the cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I would put this into the "any excuse" area. If allowed, then "he was to good looking and distracted me" ...... Since I am the usually runs you I am now a little worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Excess visible cleavage. Reshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 View Post1911vm, on 08 February 2011 - 04:36 PM, said:I am a smoker and and s o. I have never run a shooter while smoking in 5 years . I am not even sure how it can be properly done. 1 hand timer ,1 hand for procedurals or director shooter in safety situations and mouth to give commands . just my 2 cents I had an IDPA SO run me while smoking a cigarette, holding the timer and eating a hotdog. It can be done. Sure it can be done but it's not healthy for you to do so. I can't imagine what his Blood Lead Level (BLL) is or if he/she's ever had it tested. Smoking and eating on the range or doing so prior to washing your hands after shooting is asking for health risks. Take a break and have another SO step in for you for ten minutes, wash, grab a bite and puff away then come back (wash hands before you come back so you don't stink up my timer or score cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDPMatt Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I am a smoker and and s o. I have never run a shooter while smoking in 5 years . I am not even sure how it can be properly done. 1 hand timer ,1 hand for procedurals or director shooter in safety situations and mouth to give commands . just my 2 cents I had an IDPA SO run me while smoking a cigarette, holding the timer and eating a hotdog. It can be done. sweet, you've been to Arkansas Edited February 9, 2011 by CDPMatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I dont think it would be SO interference, as I wouldnt even make ready or even get into the shooting area if a SO walked up to me smoking, I am simply not willing to tolerate some one else's smoke, shooter, spectator or anyone else. If It was up to me smoking would fall under the same category as drinking and not allowed in public. Edited February 9, 2011 by Joe4d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Excess visible cleavage. Reshoot. ...and reshoot again...and again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Excess visible cleavage. Reshoot. ...and reshoot again...and again... and again! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehorn Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 This should really be a non-issue. If the smoke bothers you as a shooter, ask that it be put out, or get moved down in the shooting order, but do something BEFORE you shoot. If you have a bad run, don't blame the smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 This should really be a non-issue. If the smoke bothers you as a shooter, ask that it be put out, or get moved down in the shooting order, but do something BEFORE you shoot. If you have a bad run, don't blame the smoke. +1! Blame yourself for not taking care of the problem. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I have not run into this problem so I don't know if it would bother me. If it does then I would ask for another SO before I shot the CoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Sweet Baby Jesus.... What next? Edited February 9, 2011 by Merlin Orr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solaritx Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 What next???? "can I have a reshoot, the sun (or cloud) was in my eyes?" AFE (any fricken excuse) Any yea, Brian......you should be worried. You are one hunk (or at least that is what your wonderful wife says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken.lambert Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I would think that an SO smoking would highlight safety concerns more so than interference. I'm sure most SOs can handle it but why add undue distractions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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