EvilBetty Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Looks like Salient is jumping on te 930 as well. Did anyone look at that at SHOT show? Its supposed to be at the salient booth. Pics look nice on there fb page I didn't even see it the first two times I was in the Mossberg booth... It was on the other side of the Miculek guns... Grips are stippled. Bolt has been either replaced or worked and chromed. Lifter has been welded and chromed. 28" barrel cut down to somewhere around 22" no sights installed. Not sure who makes the mag-lite extension tube or what size it is... +8 or 9. Bolt and trigger were slick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 ^^^^^^looks like the forearm is shaved too. That looks sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Steele Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Looks like Briley parts on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdhunterman Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is it wrong to want the furniture from the Rhythm on the JM Pro series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilBetty Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) They retail for 1750.00 They are ready for order now and will be delivered in 6 to 8 weeks. I didn't even see it the first two times I was in the Mossberg booth... It was on the other side of the Miculek guns... Grips are stippled. Bolt has been either replaced or worked and chromed. Lifter has been welded and chromed. 28" barrel cut down to somewhere around 22" no sights installed. Not sure who makes the mag-lite extension tube or what size it is... +8 or 9. Bolt and trigger were slick. Edited January 20, 2012 by EvilBetty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) $1750 Unless I'm missing something, other than the bolt work, I don't see anything the avg. hobby gunsmith couldn't put together for under $800. You could buy 2 of the JM Pro Series guns and have the lifters welded for under that price. Holy stickershock!! Edited January 20, 2012 by Shooter115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninemmbill Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) $1750 Unless I'm missing something, other than the bolt work, I don't see anything the avg. hobby gunsmith couldn't put together for under $800. You could buy 2 of the JM Pro Series guns and have the lifters welded for under that price. Holy stickershock!! Salient does great work and makes great guns. Mossberg's JM model shows a retail of $715. Can the Salient be that much better? Edited January 20, 2012 by ninemmbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 $1750 Unless I'm missing something, other than the bolt work, I don't see anything the avg. hobby gunsmith couldn't put together for under $800. You could buy 2 of the JM Pro Series guns and have the lifters welded for under that price. Holy stickershock!! Salient does great work and makes great guns. Mossberg's JM model shows a retail of $715. Can the Salient be that much better? I had thought the same thing until I got my hands on one of their M2's , there is alot more work done to their shotguns that you don't see until you disasemble and compare to a stock gun , not much goes untouched and the fit and finish is very nice with great attension to detail is what seperates a truly "smithed" gun from a home built bolt-on shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigS. Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I kind of question why Salient would go to this level and price when the main reason people like these shotguns has to be the price point that you can buy them for. Edited January 20, 2012 by CraigS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I kind of question why Salient would go to this level and price when the main reason people like these shotguns has to be the price point that you can buy them for. Even at $1750 is is still cheaper than the M2 3gun model it is msrp at $2699 http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-performance-shop-m2-3-gun-model.php 3gun is going to quickly get the reputation that USPSA has had to deal with and that is the "it is only for extremely expensive custom firearms" And your average person will probably dismiss it and not want to try it even though they probably already have a Glock 9mm, Basic AR and decent enough shotgun. I think that Mossberg is headed in the right direction and are going to sale everyone they can possibly make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz41 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 If the JM 930's prove to be solid out of the box and the only thing that a guy has to throw at one is a welded lifter then Mossberg will sell a ton of them. Salient will def. sell their fair share even at that price point. There are several other smith's that are kicking out "full race" M2's for over $2K and I'm guessing that there are plenty of people that are paying money for them no questions asked. I really hope that this gun proves to run out of the box and stays at this price point. If it does then there will be one in my near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaG Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Mr Hill had a JM 930 on his table at the Rockcastle ProAm last year and it was slick !! At that price point for what you get I'll definately buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofagator Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 realize we still need to wait for these to come out to get some user reviews, but is it the group's consensus that all these should need is a welded lifter and these should be ready to rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilBetty Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The 930's are not the thumb biters that the SLP's are. I have got my thumb caught once, but it I was playing around loading two rounds at once and had my thumb in weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokecloud Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So for a welded Lifter, is that something that can be purchased from one the great smiths on the boards here, and then install it ourselves, or is there something tricky to it and the gun has to be sent in for timing and fitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I haven't put many through mine yet, about 100, my son has more than that , neither of us have had any problems with them biting. Just got them and it's been about 17 degrees out. Should be going through 300 rounds or more each , next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben b. Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I know that welded lifters get used in Benellis. Why is a welded-up lifter desirable in a 930? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I know that welded lifters get used in Benellis. Why is a welded-up lifter desirable in a 930? Not needed-shoot open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I know that welded lifters get used in Benellis. Why is a welded-up lifter desirable in a 930? For the same reason. If the forked design of the lifer does it's best to remove your thumb nail while loading weak-hand, welding it up solves the problem. It's all to individual tastes and loading style. If it doesn't grab your thumb, no need to do anything. I never had trouble until recently switching to an M2. It quickly became painfully obvious that the lifter had to get welded up ASAP. Edited January 22, 2012 by Shooter115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED357 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Finally got my barrel from Mossberg saturday. Couple of issues out of the box. It came with only one XX Full Turkey choke instead of the accu-choke set like I was told it would. Not a huge deal since I already have a full set of accu-chokes from the gun purchase. However, I was told that the price I paid for the barrel was because it included the imp cyl, modified, and full chokes. Secondly, the clip-on FO sights are crap. The rear sight was misisng the adjustment screw and the front sight slides back and forth on the rib. I just took the rear sight off completely and use the front sight like a bead after I got it tighted up enough not to move. I tested it out with slugs using a imp cyl choke since I don't have my light modified yet. I was happy to say that at 50 yds my verticle POA and POI was almost dead on. However, the horizontal POA and POI was about 2 to 3 inches off to the left. After I compensated for this, I was easily busting gallon milk jugs full of water at 50 yds. The horizintal problem is probably due to the front sight and not the barrel. Overall, I am satisfies with the barrel. But, the lack of organization at Mossberg is a little troubling. But, I guess we probably won't need to worry too much about there customer service since it seems that most of us are grinding and bendingand welding our brand new 930s right out of warranty anyway....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Woodfield Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I know that welded lifters get used in Benellis. Why is a welded-up lifter desirable in a 930? If it bits you, weld it up or have it done. If not, don't worry about it. I welded mine and am much happier with the way it works. I had caught my thumb a few times and it hurts (any body seen my blanket?). Now i don't worry at all about the thumb hanging. It didn't seem to help the thumb problem after i opened the feed port so i did the lifter too. Someone mentioned fitting a new lifter. As near as i can tell it is a drop in part. I secured some replacements and welded two together to retain the end profile, minus the gaping notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Woodfield Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Here is another pick of the finished lifter and an unaltered one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If you hit the bolt release with the bolt forward you will most likely have 2 shells come out of the mag and since only about 1 and 1/4 shells fit in he receiver you can't cycle the bolt to clear. With a welded lifter is takes some work and possible disassembly to get the shells out. With the stock lifter you can access the second shell and push it back in the mag to keep going. While this may not happen often it is a definite advantage of staying with the stock lifter. Not to mention opening up the loading port accomplishes the same result and allows you to more easily catch the shell catch. Without porting forward you have to stick your thumb into the receiver to get the shell to catch the latch=slower. David E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If you hit the bolt release with the bolt forward you will most likely have 2 shells come out of the mag and since only about 1 and 1/4 shells fit in he receiver you can't cycle the bolt to clear. With a welded lifter is takes some work and posslible disassembly to get the shells out. With the stock lifter you can access the second shell and push it back in the mag to keep going. While this may not happen often it is a definite advantage of staying with the stock lifter. Not to mention opening up the loading port accomplishes the same result and allows you to more easily catch the shell catch. Without porting forward you have to stick your thumb into the receiver to get the shell to catch the latch=slower. David E. What did you use to make the half circle cut alont the front of port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajg308 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 will it be shipped with multiple chokes or what choke will it come with, and what is the silver button behind the trigger? and no chromed mag tube? It comes with 3 chokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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