TravisT Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 Taran Butler of Team Infinity, made GM in 12 months shooting a Glock. It’s the singer not the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 I didn't know Taran was a GlockMaster! He's truly an amazing individual. I remember the first time I saw him shoot an area 1 in San Diego. Acutally I didn't see him, I heard what sounded like a machine gun shooting a stage behind me. Thinking it had to be at least an open gun in the hands of some super-god, I turned around to see an unknown (to me) shooter finishing the stage with a stock gun! I don't know if I'd ever seen anyone shoot a stage that fast! be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Are any of these guys shooting comps and dots on their Glocks? Are they shooting large frame Glocks? (.45 or 10mm frame) (Edited by Flexmoney at 5:05 am on Aug. 1, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Snyder Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Kyle... Armando Valdez was shooting a G35 (he had replaced the older G24) last time I talked to him. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Tarran's gun was definitely Stock, but other than that I can't remember. To me, a Glock's a Glock. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Oh my God Brian. Don't let them hear you talk like that on GlockTalk. Bill H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 I was hopin for at least one response. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenard Posted August 4, 2001 Share Posted August 4, 2001 Hello Guys Anyone have an opinion on the new IPSC Standard CZ. I saw one in a gunshow yesterday and it seems like a very nice Standard gun. Trigger pull was impressive for a factory tuned gun. Anyone shot it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 I just read a post on GT where Dave Vaughan states that he made GM in IPSC with a Glock. He is out of AZ., right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 humm, only 165 GM's in the USPSA data base, 69 of which are limited, oddly high ammount seem to be on the web these days. just a thought. i think that the 1911 platform is the easiest for most shooters, (me included) to master, learning the DA stroke on the beretta was something really very interesting and challenging to do. i may again shoot a glock but not for a while, besides the price or mags is horrid compared to their durability! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 kyle, Dave Vaughn has been shooting at Rio Salado (in AZ) for Quite a while. He is the man, and he shoots a Glock. He tried a Para a couple years ago, but didn't do any better with it, in fact I think he was worse. I remember thinking we were in trouble when he switched over, but I guess some guys are just GLOCKMEN. be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted August 29, 2001 Share Posted August 29, 2001 AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird Posted August 30, 2001 Author Share Posted August 30, 2001 If the Glock can do it then the HK can do it. Any gun will do if you do. I shot an IPSC match tonight with KC Eusebio who is 13 years old and he told me to get a real gun, a 1911. ouch, Bruce Gray and scooter may be my only hope... At one time the 1911 was a "combat only" handgun KC is a really cool kid. (Edited by bird at 5:23 am on Aug. 30, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted September 12, 2001 Share Posted September 12, 2001 Hey bird, I'm still out there whoopin' ass with my lil' p7m13. Although I must admit I have a love-hate relationship with this tiny gun (wish they accepted hi cap 1911 mags). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted September 14, 2001 Share Posted September 14, 2001 I shot a few stage with Ernest Langdon and his Beretta at the 2000 Lim Nats. I think he could make GM with it if he was ever interested in shooting ipsc. I didn't really care for Beretta but that guy can really work that gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted September 14, 2001 Share Posted September 14, 2001 Man, this is one heavily viewed thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 14, 2001 Share Posted September 14, 2001 Quote: from benos on 7:36 pm on Sep. 14, 2001 Man, this is one heavily viewed thread. ---------- I think we all want to hear that we don't have to buy a $2,000 - $3,000 gun to make it to the top. We want to believe that it is the shooter not the gun. Knowing that others have made it paves the way for us. Kinda like Roger Bannister and the four minute mile...or the sound barrier. Once the wall has been broken down the rest of us can flood in. giddy-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 Flex, You are right. And you don't have to spend that much. But, all things considered, there is the hard way to make master and the REAL hard way. I don't see the need to make it real hard. A $2000-$3000 pistol is not necessary either, just makes it less hard. A good 'ol used S_I with mags can be had for $1500. Or a new single stack with a few mods and your set for lim-10 for $1200-$1500. The wall has not been broken down, some people are just good enough to do it the REAL hard way. I know you like Glocks and I would like to know how much you have in your pistol including mags. I know whats in mine and I only shoot it in production so it has no external mods but I'm still bumping $850 with it and thats with no hi-caps. Add 5 hi-caps and a magwell and you got at least a $1500 rig......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 I think most of it is the shooter that makes the difference, although the equipment also plays a role. I believe the 1911 type setup cuts the curve quite a bit and makes it a little easier to do better a little faster. I think two equal shooters of equal skill (I know this doesn't exist, but just for discussion sake) and the 1911 shooter will perform better at a faster pace of progressing than the other because the 1911 and its ease of operation and shooting. The 1911 is a very easy gun to shoot and get better on quickly I think. I think most, but not all, of it is with the shooter, but equipment definitely makes it easier or harder. The same skill shooter shooting something else is maybe a A class where the same shooter shooting a 1911 is a Master. Definitely cuts the curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 SS, My gun: Factory refurbished G35, came with two hicaps, I bought two more from the seller at $75/each. Total for the gun and four hicap mags was $725 (+shipping). I did spend something like $60 for a trigger job. I now know that I (anybody) could have done the polishing and replace the striker spring for about $5. I bought a HI-VIZ sight and sold it soon after, along with the adjustable rear Glock sight. I replaced the rear with the regular fixed Glock sight. With all that swapping I might be down $5. Oh, and one Taylor Freelance mag pad at $20-$30. So, less than $800. This gun will easily carry me to the upper region of "B" class and possible into "A" class...if I can do it justice. After that, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 Kevin, I agree completly. Kyle, You got a deal! My 35 came with no hi-caps and I paid $649 for it. I added a Bomar $70, Tungston guide rod $60, Dawson small fiber optic front $40 (the jury is still out on this for me), springs and 3 extra 10rd mags and I'm at about $850. I did the trigger job myself and it came out GREAT. Breaks at 3.25lbs with a reduced power striker spring. The only reason I decided to stop there is the cost of hi-cap mags. That is the only thing that stopped me from turning it into a limited pistol. At the last match I shot there was a stage with a row of 6 pepper poppers (the small ones) at 30yrds. There was a fellow shooting a G22 with the HI-VIZ front sight and that damn sight was so big in relation to the poppers he emptied 2 and a half mags (25rds!) trying to hit them. I won't be buying one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted September 15, 2001 Share Posted September 15, 2001 Singlestack, The best thing ever did as far as gun sights was to take the Hiviz off my gun(actually the flimsy thing broke off) and make my own fiber optic front sight. As far as the price of Glocks are concerned I won't tell you what the the police price was for mine,it would make you sick. There are some new condition G34 and 35's for sale on the web in the very low $500- range. I think the reason there are so many hits on this page is because people want too improve so badly that they may need reinforcement that it's the shooter and not the gun. We have been conditioned to believe that IPSC is an equipment race. If you have what it takes to make GM then you can and will do it with a glock; it might just take a little longer. Remember on the majority of classifers it isn't your split times that are the most important but the economy of motion; i.e. draw, reload, target transition, and even points down. I sometimes wish I had stayed with my Glock instead of going to the 1911's. I too was thinking about the best gun for GM instead of what I needed to be doing to go up in the next class which at the time was a long way from GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 21, 2001 Share Posted September 21, 2001 O.K. Happy mode. This C class shooter somehow managed to shoot his Glock 35 with 180 grain Blazer ammo (over 187 pf) into 13th place on a fast, get your gun, trigger speed stage. Hell, I got in front of two of the big three...and some other GM's. I'm telling anyone who will listen. http://www.uspsa.org/cgi-bin/stage_display...ol_Stage_13.dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Dunlop Posted September 21, 2001 Share Posted September 21, 2001 Sounds like your well bitten Kyle, great to hear you enjoyed yourself and well done, I'm green with envy! P.D. (Edited by Phil Dunlop at 12:49 am on Sep. 21, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 21, 2001 Share Posted September 21, 2001 Kyle, Congratulations. Glad you enjoyed yourself. Remember I've seen you shoot. I'm not surprised you did well. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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