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Third. Spent 2000-2003 fighting this thing on multiple guns. Another issue could be that, in the case of a plastic grip that might also be cracked, that he's causing it to happen. Gripping just tightly enough that the grip is flexing.

Extractor looked pretty good; did some very light dressing. Put a more appropriate recoil spring in the gun. In 60 rounds there was one instance of the rim getting stuck under the extractor. Will check the extractor for clocking. If none will try a new extractor.

It is currently passing that extractor test. I will get in the shop this morning with better light and maybe a magnifier and take a look at the hook itself. Thanks to all. Will update.

Agreed/understood on the tension being a "false negative." Just seemed to be the opposite of the problem. Just hand cycled a dozen or so dummy rounds; the gun consistently extracts rounds. Had one instance of not sliding under the extractor. In "creating" the malfunction it appears that, like ltdmstr mentioned, that the hook is making a LOT of contact with the case wall. Although a solid 1911 guy, I am not familiar with 38 Super external case dimensions. Is there a chance that this could be a 38s extractor? The hook itself appears to be too "long" for the rim on this case.

I was not overly optimistic about the 12 lbs spring; had it laying around. Heavier springs are on the way. Got into the slide tonight, fully expecting to find an extractor that was a hair too tight. Get the firing pin out, tilt the slide down and..............the extractor fell right out of the gun. It was straight; no curve or tension at all. Failure to extract has not been one of the problems, so to find an extractor with NO tension at all was a little disorientating. I will look at it tomorrow in better light, but the hook appears to be smooth, polished, and generally like someone actually fitted it properly. How do I reconcile a tension-less extractor with rounds not sliding under it?

I felt frisky and bought a 4" 1911 .40 caliber on Gunbroker. Was built by.....a guy. Felt good about the purchase, knowing that there was some risk. I am not new to 1911s. The builder emphasized using some "special" oil he sent with it. I have not used his "special" oil. Gun is beautiful; excellent parts list. Trigger is probably the best trigger I've ever felt. The gun also seems to be mechanically/intrinsically accurate. It came with a 10lb recoil spring. Gun kicked like a mule and out of 300 rounds had about 4 instances of the round getting caught on the feed ramp; light tap of the back of the slide chambered the round. I put a 12lb recoil spring in there; out of 150 rds I've had three instances of the rim of the new round not fully seating under the extractor, and one instance of a round getting hung up on the feed ramp. Gun is properly lubed, ammo is factory. My inclination is to up the recoil spring to 14lbs, but am now concerned about the new issue of the round getting hung up under the extractor.

I called Caspian; they were charming and helpful. They have a record of selling the frame to the shop in question about a year ago. The build sheet gives me a rough dollar value of the parts; the total price minus the value of the parts seems reasonable to build a gun. I will reflect on it tonight.

Is Caspian making complete guns now? I know they've made parts for a million years, but complete guns? There's one on Gunbroker with a legit looking build sheet; seller says the work was "done by Caspian."

Cylinder and Slide makes some very nice kits; almost totally drop-in. Saves you time, shipping, and gets you more familiar with the internal workings of the gun. Brownells has them, I'm sure others do too.

What magazines/basepads work best with the ICE magwell? Singlestack gun; the gun (Max 1911) came with mags but they have basepads that are too short for run/gun stuff.

In some ways it's a moot point; most new shooters struggle at the beginning with so MANY elements of the game it's almost like the first couple matches are some hellish tribal initiation rite. That Texas Star at 14 yards is gonna leave a mark on your soul, regardless of whether you are shooting a Glock or a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. Of more interest than the gun they shoot is whether they come back at all.

Just trying to get a feel for what people are doing with these guns.

When this thread started 13 years ago there was a Classifieds section; at the time it was a pretty good place. "Coming soon" on the new website has been coming soon for a while now.

+1 to Cha-Lee and RowdyB. It's a match not a class. We recently had a squad who felt the match was an appropriate place to give an impromptu class and to test fire a gun.

I wouldn't mind buying a CAR from you Eddie.....it's the bodies in the trunk that would be a turn off. @sfinney I thought so too; again, I fully understand wanting to get home for Xmas Eve, but five seconds of followup would have been reasonable.

Noon on Christmas Eve. Beautiful weather. Go to a major name brand car lot to test drive two cars we are interested in. Drive up and they are open; gates are open, doors are open, people around doing car lot stuff. Walk inside and things are a little more quiet/ghost town-ish. Find a guy who says "We are closed and have been for a couple hours." And......that's it. He walks away; NOT "Sorry we are closing but let me get your contact info...." or "Hey we are about close but let me give you a business card." Anybody else think this is poor sales-fu? Would love to hear from someone in the industry.

If they let you shoot it before you buy it that is absolutely awesome and should eliminate most of the risk involved.

@motosapiens-I don't dispute that as a definite possibility. I guess I'd modify my statement with the qualifier "....Off the top of my head......" I'll stick with my closing statement; across the board most of us would benefit more from more focus on other stuff.

At club matches there's sometimes a way to game a stage. Rarely, there are ways to gain an actual advantage gaming a stage. I've seen people act like they've cured cancer or smashed an atom by gaming something, only to need 12 rounds to finish a plate rack, or forget to engage something, or get an A/M/NS on a 5 yard target. I can't think of a single stage at a major match where there were any substantive opportunities for gaming. For 99% of us, we'd probably benefit from more focus on getting better points, or doing better visualization before the stage.

Shoot it. I put about 12k through the guns and put some Scales grips on. No other changes needed.

I had this problem with one of my two S2s. At first it had 5 FTEs per 200 rounds or so, then got much better, down to 1 per 5000. It has since come back. There is no correlation between frequency and cleanliness of gun or type of ammo.

Thanks guys.

Trigger pin in a Shadow 2 with about 10k rounds through it is starting to walk itself out while shooting. Is this a Thing or just One of Those Things

A tough topic; most new shooters actually think they're pretty darn good, and have no need of education. There have been threads on how to grow match attendance over the years, and the threads that stick in my "brain" are those that question the compelling need to have MORE shooters. More does not necessarily equal better when it comes to club matches that, in many cases, are already at the 60+ shooter level. I've done a lot of firearms training over the years, and another thing that sticks out is that we put all this effort into this New Shooter. This New Shooter will show up, shoot, come back, shoot, join USPSA, shoot, become an RO, shoot, help run matches, and so on. The reality is different; sometimes we put a lot of effort into bringing in a new shooter who shows up, waves his gun around for 5 stages and then leaves, never to be seen again. Anecdotally it doesn't seem that we get much ROI on all this effort to bring in new shooters.

Another option would be to simply shoot it as-is. Gun probably isn't holding you back, you have piece of mind re: the warranty, and you get a lot more familiar with the gun before you decide whether/if/when to modify that thing. I picked mine up as an impulse purchase, with no intention whatsoever of switching out of Limited. Touched the gun, bought it, and switched to Production on the spot.