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Looks like the awesome half day format that Larry runs at FNH and we are using at Generation III. Now I'm really excited! No more wasted time between stages. Half day format is awesome!! I was a little surprised that squads are late or early both days. Usually I've seen it staggered. I'm not complaining though. We can get all the rowdy crews on the late starting squads and get a full nights sleep. The wind may be little worse, but at least I'll be well rested.

From the dozen + matches I've shot that Charles has been the MD for, I can say that he throws a little (or a lot) of everything at you. There will be some burner stages and some longer stages with a good bit of movement. He does a good job of leveling the field so that no one gun or skill set has a huge advantage, they are very well-rounded matches. Rifle shots at the Tarheel matches are generally inside 350, but I have no idea what to expect at Clinton House as far as range goes. They have said the property is huge, so I would be prepared for them to take advantage of it. He usually gives a lot of shooters choice type stuff too, as in paper can be rifle or pistol, steel can be pistol or shotgun etc... I'm already looking forward to it. I may even practice a little bit!

I was around there last year and got in about 6 weeks before the match. It is possible that you'll get in, don't give up hope!

I jumped the buzzer... Hopefully the procedural doesn't cost me a spot!

Rooms are booking up fast. Get on it!

I'm running a 17" Krieger barrel on a Lancer rifle. No issues. Also using the SLR adjustable gas block, JP LMOS and silent captured buffer system with the second lightest spring. I'd say you're overthinking it, but if you enjoy the details, then read all you can and make your decision from there. You can find lots of info on dwell time, barrel length and gas tube lengths with a little searching. SBR sites have lots of info.

Thanks Kurt, I think you're probably right. I had the same problem with my pistol yesterday. About 200 rounds in to some practice and it was done. Full of syrup is a very good description. I spoke to a Fireclean rep at the FNH match last year and he said it was a common problem for people to use the product too liberally as a lubricant. His advice- Apply heavy for cleaning, then wipe it off and re-apply sparingly for lube. During the summer, no problems, in fact it's great stuff. Feels like an action job in a bottle and makes clean up a breeze, but... "Apply as directed" is certainly good advice for Fireclean users.

I'd like to do it just for the experience. It's like a shooting sports buffet! Plus, Larry runs a great match. Wonder what kind of entry fee we'll be looking at? Providing all those stage guns and ammo can't be cheap.

I kept an eye on eBay and was able to find one for a decent price pretty quickly.

Well... Crap. Thought I'd done something right and was pretty pleased with the results. I'll put some grease on the cam pin, thanks for the tip.

I'm relatively new to 3-gun and was never a shotgun guy prior to getting in to the sport. I've learned a lot through trial and error and by spending a ton of time reading old threads. Hopefully someone else finds this method useful. ***Edited to add- this technique worked for me. Obviously from the posts below from more experienced shotgun guru's, this isn't the only way to run an M2. If you're having problems and looking for remedies, this is a method that worked for me. My M2 was acting very sluggish. I was getting a lot of failures to feed where the bolt was not going fully in to battery. I clean my gun about every 300 rounds and finish by applying a few drops of Fireclean on the contact points. I assumed it was my recoil spring causing the problem as it has been in the gun for a few thousand rounds now. I had the same problem towards the end of last season and was able to get my gun running again by pulling the recoil spring and making sure it was clean and dry. I was a little overzealous with the lube a few times and it leaked down in to the recoil spring causing it to gum up and act sluggish. Replacing the spring helped a little, but it didn't fully cure the problem. The problem was noticeably worse when the gun was cold, so I thought maybe Fireclean was too temperature sensitive. A friend of mine told me Benelli's should be run very dry, I don't exactly run mine wet, but it wasn't dry either. I decided to completely strip all the oil from the receiver with some acetone and give it a try. After cleaning with the acetone, I put some very light oil on a q-tip and ran that on the rails and bolt, just enough to where the metal didn't look "thirsty". The results are pretty easy to see and the gun runs like new again. Lesson learned on my part! Before: After:

that s not true. what you describe is the entry pupil. I know that most manufacturers use this as exit pupil but its plain wrong. I would also mean that the cheapest china scope for 10 bucks is as good as a 3000 bucks high end scope. exit pupil differs widely. Swarovski for example lists it for the 1-6 with 9,6mm at 1x mag and not 24 like it would be if we just use what u described. This is like half of what my tac30 has resulting in a far smaller eyebox Then what is the formula that makes up exit pupil? I spent a little time searching and everything I've found supports the formula I listed. The only mention of entrance pupil I've found at first glance seems to have more to do with parallax and true center of the image transfer. Exit pupil, as I understand it, is just the size of the beam of light that is transferred. It has nothing to do with the quality of the image. Your comparison using the Chinese scope makes no sense. Plenty of other factors go in to scope quality. Exit pupil does not define scope quality. You've got glass quality, tube construction, lens coatings, lens shapes & erector construction to consider (just to name a few things). I've never really even considered exit pupil as a factor when looking at a scope, other than buying scopes with large enough objective lenses to transfer the light I need at the intended magnification. My 22x scopes only have a 56mm obj, but I know I can turn the scope down to transfer more light to my eye (by increasing the exit pupil) if I need to. Maybe I'm missing something, you metric guys may have a key that I don't know about. Please, explain what you understand exit pupil to be.

Getting texts here too. Laker advances, Reed out. Looks like they had to do a lot of changes to the bracket due to no-shows.

Yea like on the first post of my review where I posted .82 moa accuracy. lol 1/8 twist is built around heavy bullets. I find it strange you have had 1/8 barrels that did not work with them. 1/9 is hit or miss with heavy bullets depending on the barrel length in my experience. Pat Sorry, I totally overlooked that! My 77's are being pushed a lot faster than yours. My accuracy problems are most likely due to the velocity of the bullet. Out of my 18" 1/8 JP I am getting 2890 fps, from a 16" 1/7 CMMG I got 2770 fps. I am now using a 17" Krieger with a 1/7.7 and getting exceptionally good accuracy but I have not run it over a chrony yet. I was only able to get about 1.5 moa from my JP with the 77's, where 62's at about the same velocity would stack up under a moa.

I was taught that exit pupil equals objective lens diameter divided by power. So a 40mm objective on a 10 power scope has a 4mm exit pupil. In the case of the Vortex, it has a 24mm objective so the exit pupil at max power (6x) would also be 4mm which I was taught was optimum for the human eye. Surely other factors such as parallax based on occular size come in to play, but this is the only rule I've ever known to go by. Was I taught incorrectly? You are talking exit pupil and not eye relief, right?

Cassanova, Gibson and Perry are out.

Anyone run 77 grain bullets through one of these? I've had some 8 twist rifles that like them, and some that don't. All the reports on this barrel, paired with the price and availability make it very appealing for a build.

I'm also going to have a build done by Glenn soon. I'm going with the aluminum PT grip due to the weight as well. It's not a matter of carrying a few extra ounces on your hip, it's the fact that it makes the pistol more prone to flying out of the holster when you're running, jumping, climbing, falling etc... Plus, it's more weight to start and stop on targets during the stage. With aluminum, you'll get the energy transfer and added stability that you miss with the polymer grips without the full weight of the steel grips. The other option I would like to look at is titanium grips... The cost is a little more. Ti weighs a little more and may be stronger for this application over aluminum, I really don't know for sure. Please keep us posted, I'd like to know your thoughts after the side by side comparison.

If the barricade or what ever you are shooting off is not squared up with what you are shooting at, your reticle will be tilted in relation to the target. I have found that what ever you are resting the forearm on, it is usually not level. They are very nice but I will stick with a round one. Like I said, not for everyone. I find more square barricades and barrels than not. At the distances and targets we usualy shoot, a slightly off axis reticle really doesn't hurt too much. It's great on VTAC style barricades, for sure. It will be interesting to see what the common 3GN barricade is going to be for the upcoming season. If it's anything like a VTAC, the Seekins will be very helpful. But, please, don't buy one! I need all the advantages I can get

Finger on the trigger... It would be cool if you could add a countdown clock to the registration page and then have a timer beep when it goes live!

It will be interesting to see what is unveiled at SHOT in a couple of weeks. Hopefully we see some new contenders join the market.

I absolutely love mine. It is almost an unfair advantage on barricades! Oddly enough, it seems folks are about 50/50 when I let them handle my rifle. Some people really prefer the feel of a round handguard. I don't notice the difference in feel, but I certainly notice the difference on barricades. I just got a octagonal handguard from Lancer and it may be better suited for folks who strongly prefer the feel of a round one. It is sort of in-between. It offers some advantage on barricades, but not to the extent of the Seekins.

This looks perfect! You did all of that work free-hand? Well done! My LSI should be here in October, do you have a waiting list for your grip work

I took mine off after convincing myself that it was unnecessary. I don't have a scale to weigh it on, but its maybe an ounce or two at most? Way lighter than a buffer, about like a couple of loaded rounds (pretty scientific). When I talked to JP about it at the time of the build, they claimed it would also help with barrel life. I don't think I've ever come close to shooting out a 223 barrel, I have gun ADD and sell them way too quick to burn out a barrel. If anyone wants to try one out, mine is available.

We intend to re skin them with a 12 inch circle...the two test models fall with a 9mm carbine at 75 yrds... Can you please put a few out past 500 yards so I can have a chance against some of these blazing fast pistol shooters????