motosapiens

I don't use weird esoteric bullets that only 1 mfr actually supplies, but it seems like people are catching up. My source of bullets is still a bit behind on my monthly deliveries, but they just shipped the order scheduled for 4 weeks ago (only 2 weeks after the one scheduled for 8 weeks ago), so it appears they are catching up. I'm more concerned about primers, but not really panicking. If I can't get stuff to shoot at reasonable prices, I'll just go dirtbiking, since gas is cheap.

this seems like one of those areas where overzealous RO's can try to figure out ways to screw shooters over that are not doing anything unsafe. As such, it probably needs to be addressed more carefully in the rulebook, like most of the other ways have been. I can turn my pistol dot on while the gun is in the holster. I don't see anything wrong with unfolding the stock and turning a pcc dot on while holding it safely vertical, but I do acknowledge that a certain kind of RO might interpret that as not allowed by the rules (it certainly isn't unsafe).

i've never heard of it before, and never experienced it. It doesn't sound optimal. Were you on the am/pm/am schedule? i know there were some empty squads there, so I could sorta see some rebalancing going on. The pm/am/pm group where I shot was pretty full. 15 mins is not much notice. I would try to be polite about it, but I would probably be asking for more time and taking a little longer at make-ready.

i've never been to a major match where I didn't look at every stage before the main match started. I like to know which movers I really need to make an effort to see getting activated. Getting moved to a different zone wouldn't be optimal, but it wouldn't be horrible either. I also tend to show up an hour early and look at that day's stages again. The last 2 nationals I've been to have generally not required extensive walk-through, although stage 2 and 3 last week both required extra time for me.

not sure what is funny about that. I've RO'd these guys for many years now. Some people shoot really fast. Some people shoot really efficiently and go one for one on steel, take an extra few hundredths of a second on harder shots, and rarely have to come back to targets for makeups. They don't *look* as fast, and they don't *sound* as fast, but they end up finishing the stage quickly and with good hits, and they seem to be more successful in the long term.

I thought this was the best-officiated match I have ever been to. I found the RO's to be very professional, competent, courteous and friendly. I've only been to 6 or 7 nationals, but this one really stood out to me, and it seems to me like Troy and the other RMI's have pointed things in the right direction.

meh. i've been working and shooting nationals for years and watching alot of these guys. the ones that are winning are often not shooting all that fast, and imho, someone who shoots pretty deliberately (like christian) could easily take full seconds of his stage times, but he'd not only see more charlies (not really a big deal), but also more delta's and mikes, and those add up to multiple full seconds pretty darned quickly. At any rate, the strategy of shooting more accurately than the other top guys seems to be a pretty darned effective one based on the last few years of results.

I couldn't disagree with you more. A good RO is aware of most everything. I watch feet, timer, targets, gun, and background environment, and probably some other stuff too.

remembering the exact hits on the target (not unusual, if you RO alot) is not at all like 'the previous guy didn't have anything unusual in his score'. if the holes all look pretty similar and there only 3 hits on the target this go-round, a reshoot might be the best call, but it depends on what the RO saw. Sometimes you can clearly see one shot hit a target and the second shot hit the berm over the shoulder. In that case, i would stand my ground and call the mike. In real life, this is rarely rocket surgery. No one likes reshoots, but people who screwed the pooch on their original run are the biggest advocates for scoring uncertainty. in my experience, the shooter is most likely to get the most beneficial interpretation. If there is a potential mike or other controversy on the target, it is most likely to end up being a reshoot. In the end, if the shooter doesn't like the CRO's call, he should politely ask for the RM.

and for 9 minor

no bueno.

is remembering the target the same as reviewing previous scoresheets?

I'd be shocked if they didn't reduce the peak times further. Mrs moto regularly shoots 100% runs in matches in 3 different divisions (soon to be 4), and she's not famous.

^^ what he said. competitors will sometimes argue this point, especially if they had a crappy run. Certainly it is a distraction for noob competitors to notice a target that already has holes in it when shooting, but that is not grounds for a reshoot.

haha, I'll make a point of it. Hoping to get out to Colorado to shoot a match for 2021.

that's the worst idea I've ever heard... no offense, but we already have people trying to cheat and get a re-shoot by running into an RO, or intentionally shooting through something to knock over steel, or crying that a piece of tape fell off the hard-cover portion of a target so they might really have gotten and A/mike instead of the 2A you scored (and thus they need a reshoot. This would simply lead to more cheaters attempting to cheat more often. People would be claiming squib when they had *any* malfunction.

The two posts above are correct, but just to make sure there's no confusion.... If you have a squib, the stage is scored as shot. Doesn't matter if you stop yourself or the RO stops you. If you stop yourself and you *don't* have a squib, the stage is scored as shot, but generally competitors are pretty sure by the time they stop themselves. The only time you get a reshoot is if the RO stops you for squib or other gun safety issue and it turns out to be unfounded. in that case, you would get a reshoot. The rules are perfect just the way they are.

Did they ever catch the guys that vandalized your gun? I hope you get it straightened out for nats.....

I should have specified that I was only in favor of considering SS guns as production guns, not introducing major scoring. We already have folks that shoot 40 or 45 in production (like me, with a cz 40, although it's been a few years), and they are scored minor.

Yeah, I believe 5.2.4.2 restrictions against magazines in the mouth for WSB's that require magazines somewhere other than the belt would only apply during the COF, and not when walking up to the line.

carry optics would also benefit from frame-mounted optics, and compensators, and 170mm magazines.... but rules.... personally, i think it's insane to have a magnet on your belt in a division that doesn't allow you to use it whenever you want. It's just asking for trouble. But I don't use one in limited either, even tho it costs me a few tenths of a second every third match.

dunno if it's so much about 'winning' as about testing myself against the deepest field I can find. the more the rules relax for production (which i support, btw), the less sense it makes to not let 1911's with carry-style magwells compete too. Although I think that would probably kill singlestack for good, at least there would still be a place for the lord's own handgun to compete.

and also design and build stages that aren't annoying to shoot. All too often it seems like either a stupid stage plan or a standing reload is required for 8-round guns.

Not sure what I would do, but with my normal gear (race holster and a heavy-ass limited gun), I certainly wouldn't run around without my hand on the gun, even if the holster was locked. Unfortunate situation, especially to happen at a big match.

i generally help tear down because I enjoy being part of the solution, and i don't want to be thought of as a selfish jerk. At my local matches, I do more teardown, and at matches where I travel, I do a little less. That's normal. I have been an MD (and I still design and build a stage for pretty much every match at my local range), so even tho I paid to enter, I don't feel like sticking the volunteers with way more than their share of work. Not everybody feels that way, and that's cool. Some folks leave as soon as shooting is done. That's not a problem as long as it's only a few people that do it regularly. Everybody knows who those people are....