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Yep. My testing proved out that most headstamps work just fine, wcc/win, fed/ft,speer,blazer, and what I am currently using with is RP/rem. What definitively did not work was IMI and their ilk, anything that has the shelf in it, and new starline that hadn't been shot through an auto...range pickup starline works in my gun so long as the load works in federal/remington... Before the gun was tuned, it easily chewed through an assortment of boxed ammo, winchester and remington bulk ammo, hornady self defense loads and other premium much to expensive to shoot off the shelf ammo etc..all shot and extracted perfectly fine. I have largely settled on 160gn hitek's sized to .358, it takes just a sneeze, 2.1-2 of clays loaded to 1.200 for these to make 125pf(ICORE) in my gun. The load seems accurate enough. I have used 357 and 358 bullets, same weight, with slightly more titegroup, different lengths, etc... I have some other ammo loaded based on other way more expensive bullets and loads gleaned from bullseye groups but haven't gotten around to shooting them. I saw promising post about 147 bluebullets and 320, i may try that given the relative cost of blue bullets...

That is the 929 firing pin right, the hollow one? That is supposedly miculeks design.

not asking me, but i brush out with nylon brushes only and mpro7. I have read somewhere, no idea if true, that the cylinders are made somewhere other than smith, possibly taurus makes them? gun forum rumor propogation, no idea...

Is the thickest diameter directly across two grooves on the slug? how do you measure? i'm not a machinist so to me a v anvil micrometer is not in the toolbox. I assume based on your posts you have every tool known...

355 barrel bore you mean? I see alot of posts about these guns have 357 barrels and my gun undeniably shoots 358 bullets better, at least in the coated varieties. That aside, how aside from a pin gauge, does someone get an accurate measurement. I looked into slugging the barrel and realized measuring the resulting slug accurately is a bit of a trick right? there are 5 lands so there is not a direct measurement point unless you have one of them fancy micrometers that contacts at 3 points. Am i crazy? And X is right, my gun peened between 2-3k rounds. I fixed it myself after consulting the oracle, I personally wouldn't bother sending a gun back to S&W unless it was unrepairable or parts could not be sourced.

You are getting 3/4" group from your 929 with this bullet and 3.2 of n320?

I mean, you are way more experienced than me, but this has not been my experience. Every single one of my ti cyinders is peened and have also had that the "skip chambers" peen on the ball cut side that has caused the guns to fail at very unfortunate times.

I expect strong opinions. I have used both successfully and have never broken either. The only ones I have ever heard of breaking are C&S. A very experienced revolver shooter I know thinks extended pins are a solution to a non-problem.

How are these working for you? 929 I assume?

I have done the last 5 or 6. If I recall correctly the match has pretty consistently been 330ish rounds total. This year its at a totally different venue with a totally different MD, so not sure what Shannon has in mind but would expect it to be in that vicinity. In the past, that match has been run as thursday classifier match, then main match fri-sat and a shoot off on sunday. The other ranges that have hosted had site in ranges available as well. I had 700 rounds with me and never had more than 100 home on the trip home. According to the website, http://www.universalshootingacademy.com/matches/2016-international-revolver-championship/ looks like classifier match is on, not shoot off though and not known whether there is a site in range or not.

Yeah, I think this is the part that is not well understood. It is power/wattage, force applied very quickly, that sets the primer off with an otherwise very light action. Its the abiility to get the hammer to high speed that matters. I believe in days of yore, Randy used to post on this forum and if you dig around in the search I think he posted here explaining...

agreed. The day I switched to an EGW U-die was they day every weirdness I had ever seen with loading 9mm brass went away. Highly recommended. The EGW u-die in particular can be adjusted all the way to the shell plate and it does close to a full length resize which as far as I can tell is as good as you can get without going to a roll-sizer.

I think that many feel the same way you do. Here are the current IRC registration stats for example:Open: 38 Limited: 48 Limited 6: 24 Classic: 16 I'd be willing to bet that most Limited and Open shooters are running an 8 shot after the creation of Limited 6. So there isn't a real big difference between those who put a dot on top and the ones shooting iron sights. At our local Steel and ICORE shoots I see the same thing, there are usually about as many people in each division. I don't think I've seen anyone shoot open or limited with a six shot gun. Not saying it doesn't happen, but no one in limited or open went and bought an 8 shot with the creation of L6/ dropping 6 neutral stages.There's no reason a dotted (not comped) revolver should be considered unfair to play in CO. Anyone can make the argument that it's an advantage that the dot doesn't move with the slide, but no one is complaining that if I were to shoot a revolver in production, the sights don't move. The simple fact is that the capacity advantage of prod/CO is way too obvious over revolver to ever make a difference what we use for sights. Let alone the faster reload and trigger options. lol. Any "advantage" of the dot not "moving" is obliterated 10x over by reloads and reload speed.

I think that many feel the same way you do. Here are the current IRC registration stats for example: Open: 38 Limited: 48 Limited 6: 24 Classic: 16 I'd be willing to bet that most Limited and Open shooters are running an 8 shot after the creation of Limited 6. So there isn't a real big difference between those who put a dot on top and the ones shooting iron sights. At our local Steel and ICORE shoots I see the same thing, there are usually about as many people in each division. I see this at the local icore match(yes,we have them). There has been a shift over last 2 years, more people are parking the iron sight guns and showing up with red dots.

You are not wrong. I don't really have a dog in this fight, I have reconciled that I just prefer shooting red dots regardless of the game. I enjoy shooting revolvers, it is just unlikely I will shoot one at a USPSA match again unless I am shooting my ICORE open rig for practice.

Barry has been declining every year right, it was full only the first time, then 113, then 106 and just 86 this year. Not filling 120 slots is bad enough, but just getting 86 is a precipitous drop. Tying it to SS nationals clearly boosted attendance dramatically. There is no reason to believe unlocking it from SS is going to improve things, it just means SS nat's will get another day which will fill to capacity and revolver will be lumped into some other nationals and have very poor attendance based in prior history. There is no good answer.

Just that it was something they used.to clean in bulk. It seemed to cause tons of ringers, like 1 in 10 were pushing through which is not even close to wrth trying to deal with.

You have a lot of good replies here. I would only add that based on experience with 160g bullets in 9mm and short colts in revolvers that 1.155 is quite short and is going to dramatically increase pressure. Heavy bullets have to be loaded long, probably longer than your chamber is without the bullet hitting the rifling meaning you need to ream them a touch more, I belive the exact tool is a lead reamer, not sure. ce with 160+ gn is slower is probably better. I got this bit from bullseye shooters where the prevailing evidence/belief is more or less you want to push them just fast enough to stabilize and m

What is "extractor cut flow? I think he meant to have a comma there, if you look at the case head and the extractor groove, you can clearly see dents in both from a very violent ejection.

124 rn at 1.170.

Fed spp with 9g of 3n38. Yes, they are pierced and did 1100 fps over the chrono for these 2 and only 2 shot fired, demonsrating why chrono is data but doesnt necissarily tell you anything about pressure. This same with cci spp are perfectly fine and doing 1430 fps with a 124.

Fed spp with 9g of 3n38.

A friend got a decent batch of pickup brass and he was getting tons of ringers as well. The source was rinsing them in some solution that weakens the cup.

I'm not sure I follow this? Are you asking about bullets that are .358? Bayou will size any bullet they make to 358, all you need to do is ask when you order, same for ibeji. Unless I am missing something anyways...you can get 95, 124, 135 and 160 rn and they all have the groove and a round nose and bayou, ibeji and no doubt sns and anyone else using those molds, will size 356,357 or 358 on request...

I sort of expected this to be the case. The good old days for me are still only 5 years ago and pretty much everything that hasn't been fixed by someone competent has been terrible except for, ironically(?) a Colt "Special combat" I bought from a friend who had a large collection that was very recent mfg. That is a 2K dollar pistol retail though...38 super, the gun shoots very very nice and it actually works, not a jam-0-matic....