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Ditto. While I can reload 9mm I don't, so I find most Federal ammo is good to go in both the PCC and my Glocks. Since I don't shoot regular USPSA anymore due to knee issues I don't have to worry about power factors in steel matches.

Depends on what kind of matches you are shooting it in. Right now I am only shooting steel, either Steel Challenge, USPSA all steel and outlaw steel events. I use a 12 MOA dot and I find I can hit 4" knock offs at 50 yards easily with that size. Although that size is more appropriate for Steel Challenge, same as my rimfires. Only time I shot a dot that big at 100 yards or longer was at the side match of the Alabama NSSF Rimfire Challenge and the World NSSF. 10 round mag max, rimfire rifle, 7 steel plates staggered from 20-150 yards, cleaned the first run in 9 rounds and the second in all 10 (best 2 out of 3 runs). First run I got the 150y target in 2 rounds but hit the 100y and 125y targets in consecutive rounds. Targets were I think 20, 35, 50, 75, 100, 125, and 150 yards. All the over 75 were round plates but the closer ones varied some being silhouette animals. Plate sizes went up the farther away they were. Toughest for most shooters was the pig at 50y because if you had a 25y zero a rimfire shoots high at 50 yards and most shooters did not realize they had to aim low at that target to hit it the first time (plus the pig shape confused many). That was in fact my other miss in the first run as I did not aim low enough on the first shot at it. Its all a matter of having the bullet drop in your head. Plus the fact that it helps to know what the POI is of the top and bottom edges of your dot in case you need to use them. For instance if shooting an EOTech on a 3-gun 5.56, a 300y plate usually requires you to hold the dot 3 dot diameters high (slightly less actually) if using a 100y zero. One reason I like BDC scopes for rifle competition except long range.

I think that would be fair otherwise the west coast people would have to be on late NYE.

Looks like a good setup to start with. Of course down the road you are liable to end up adding more race parts, but heck that is part of the fun.

Looks like registration opens on Jan 1 at 12 AM (midnight). Thursday thru Saturday, staff on Wednesday.

My PCC and RFRO rifles all sport C-Mores. I am at Master in PCCO and at Master in RFRO although I am 3.5% away from GM in RFRO. Oh year I am 69 YO also. I would never put a scope on anything I wanted to shoot both eyes open with.

Not sure what my speed is but I developed this early in the year. Made a molle vest with 3 5.11 MP-5 mag pouches. When it goes dry (which I usually avoid by semi-counting) I hit the release button the same time I pull a mag from a pouch on my chest area, then roll the rifle over till the mag opening is horizontal and shove it in. Then roll it back while grabbing the handguard if I don't have to charge it and charging it if I do. Charging it adds about .5s I think. What I mean by semi counting is its hard to count to 30-35 under fire like I usually do for 20-25 rd. pistol mags. So instead I count misses and before the stage starts I see where my 0 miss point is for a reload (assuming there is no area that has no shots I can do a reload in) and I count backwards in the targets 1-5 and remember those targets. So when shooting I count misses and keep that in the back of my mind so when I get to the target that corresponds to the number I do a reload if I have to keep shooting. I have found I can shoot the PCC on the move at least as good as the pistol. Was not really sure of that till I tried it in a Peacemaker Super Steel match this year.

That is what I am really saying. Heck if offered the chance at +1.5s maybe the pros would game the stage and shoot from the center without movement if they found it was quicker for them also. BJ shot OL in FL in something like 9.86s. I don't remember anyone else shooting it below 10 flat before ever. Shooting OL from the center box is about the same difficulty as shooting any of the 3 fastest stages. So a 1.5s penalty means that a number of pros could likely get under 10 seconds.

1.5 seconds would be an incorrect penalty per string for a good shooter in my opinion. I have bad knees that slow me down, yet thanks to Max I can shoot 4s runs with RFPO or RFRO. If I can shoot raw times in Showdown, Roundabout, and S&H under 2s flat I could easily do that if standing in the middle box of OL. 1.8+1.5=3.3 which is too fast. OL would need a par time dropped to the 8s range with no movement. Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk

Dot size is somewhat of a personal thing. However after using an 8 MOA dot for years my teammate convinced me to try using 12-16 MOA dots and I have not looked back. Too big for shooting paper but for steel they are the best thing. Plus I have found I could shoot steel with a rimfire as far as 150 yards with it in my Open 10/22 rifle. Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk

BJ Norris used a TacSol conversion to win the Ruger Rimfire WC back in 2011, mounted on the Scandium framed S&W he used while shooting for S&W. I think he used the same setup to win the WSSC in 2011 also. Not sure about SC but he uses a Ruger MK III in NSSF Rimfire Challenge in recent days.

The problem is that you won't really know anything until at least some of the shooters finish all 8 stages so its kind of a moot point. Unless you have a scoreboard per stage that shows the top scores at each stage so that you could see what you need to shoot. However that will totally depend on who has shot there already. Not like golf where you can compare everything to par and know where the top guys are. Unless you want to have a Super Squad and have the scoreboard show what they are doing while it happens. But sounds like the extra people requirements would make it hard to implement.

Are the monthly matches going to have all 8 stages?

Ditto on that. 69 YO and shooting for about 7 years and SC PCCO Master in 2 matches. Shoot it at the same level as I do Rimfire. Definitely easier to not have to carry around a holster and mag pouches.

C-More Railway also with a 12 MOA dot. My PCC only shoots steel. If I shot paper I would likely go down to an 8 MOA maybe.

Already had 4 C-Mores so another one was a no-brainer. I don't do matches with paper so I use mine for all steel so it has a 12 MOA dot on it. If I was shooing paper I would go down to 6-8 MOA but as it is I use 12-16 MOA like all the rest of my open division guns that mount C-Mores.

Max went to slide lock on one run because he missed a few. BJ never went to slide lock although he missed a few also. Don't interpret that because you saw one run go to slide lock that is the norm. It isn't, its only because they also miss just like normal humans, only faster. Even if I shot an entire match without missing I still would not beat Max, BJ, or KC no matter how many times they missed. I started the ECSC match on my 2nd day with 2 straight clean stages in RFRO, a total of exactly 50 rounds fired. While none of my runs equaled my best ever in either stage I did lower my classification score on one of them by .5 seconds. So yes not missing is the best thing to do at any level. Max says you pull the trigger when your dot, when moving around in the area of the target, is fully within the plate boundaries, not when it gets to the center. If your shots are grouping on the plate you are shooting too slow, you are waiting too long for the dot to settle down costing yourself time. The entire plate is a legal hit so you should be using it. At last weekend's NSSF rimfire worlds they were using some plates that were about as small as legally allowed with a lot of separation, so waiting for the dot to settle down was the only thing to do (and hard). In SC every plate is 10" or larger, but in NSSF RC they can use 8" plates and be out as far as 35 yards for the rifles.

I have some of that Taccom stuff on both my old 15-22 and an AR-22 I built. Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk

There is an axiom in speed shooting that says you can't miss fast enough to win. So in a match you want to shoot at the fastest speed you can shoot without missing. Let the other guys do the missing. Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk

What I used to do a was a modified Bill Drill with either rifle or pistol. Low ready single target 6 rounds. I got down to about 1.47s in 2012 (.22 rifle). Part 2 was low ready to double tap 3 targets in a non-linear array (none in the same plane). Got that down to 1.51s. Started out around the high 2s range. I was told by a long time student of Todd Jarrett that the idea was to get both times to be the same or very close. To be able to transition the gun fast enough so that the transition time is still within your trigger time speed. Obviously if you start moving the targets farther apart that doesn't play. I watched a video of Colby Pavlock the other day where he was shooting a 7 plate array with three big ones on each end in a triangle array touching each other and a single stop plate in the middle. the big plate arrays were about 20 feet each side of the stop plate. He shot a 1.55s run. I think he was shooting rimfire rifle irons also as he is the master of that. By the way he won the NSSF Rimfire Challenge world title again for the second year in a row this last weekend in Alabama.

Max only loads 10 per mag regardless of the division in SC. If you have to shoot more than 5, unless you are KC, you are going to lose. In the electronic stop plate days they just fired up to 3 rounds at the stop plate because only the first one that hit mattered for the time. Without the electronic stop plate every extra shot at the stop plate costs you because they no longer allow backing up the timer. So if you fire 3 at the stop plate your time will be for 7 shots minimum assuming you had no makeups earlier.

Those times are right in the ballpark of my best times also, 1.75s for S&H, and 1.95 for both Roundabout and Showdown with RFRO. I am not quite as good with RFPO as the best of those times are in the 2.0-2.1 range.

No the sidematch does not start till Friday afternoon based on what was said before. but you can register for the main match starting in the AM on Friday.

I brought an engineering mind to shooting. Everything can be analyzed, as long as you stop when the buzzer goes off. Sent from my XT1064 using Tapatalk