robertg5322

The competition lever is pricey if memory serves ($239.00 if you already have the side charging upper and just want to add the competition charging handle, or $799.00 for the upper receiver with the side charging handle). Of course everything JP is pricey... Wondering what this new gun is going to cost. I have both as well, prefer the side charging option, but the benefit, while tangible, isn't a huge enough deal for me to upgrade my fleet of rifles. But if I build any more rifles, unless I'm going for ultra light, they'll be side charging.

The whole "common manual of arms" thing is all well and good, but it doesn't explain how USPSA cats who shoot standard AR charging handles in USPSA PCC switch so seamlessly to the Ruger 10/22 in Steel Challenge, or those guys who shoot multiple divisions in a Steel Challenge match, switching between rimfire rifles, centerfire rifles, rimfire pistols, and centerfire pistols. And between iron sights and optics. I'm sure it matters, just not sure it matters that much if you are familiar with each division. I agree with your opinion of the JP side charger, it is clunky, and does require more than just grabbing the handle and cycling it to clear a jam, where something of the Gibbz Arms style is more intuitive. And non-reciprocating ensures the charging handle is in the same location every time, the front of the upper, no matter where the bolt is. You also don't need to worry about the charging handle hitting your hand when releasing the bolt via the bolt catch. And it won't hit anything you're on/near as it cycles when shooting. If I shot my centerfire ARs more, I'd have a side charging upper on them. It I wasn't so wanting my rimfire AR to be as light as possible (right at 4.4 lbs now with a 16" barrel and birdcage flash suppressor), I might consider it for that gun. I built two 9mm ARs with side charging uppers because, A. I found the uppers at really good prices (>$200.00 each), and B. they look cool. They also function great, and after using them, I've never thought it was a bad idea to have the side chargers for this game. I honestly can't think of a downside to the sidecharging AR other than for left handed shooters, and there are work arounds for them (switchable handle locations, being the most obvious, and left handed rifles being another option). So, agreed on the advantages being not huge (ergonomics and leverage), and mostly limited to clearing jams, but with no disadvantage, why not? Especially when totally redesigning the rifle, and not using any standard AR parts other than furniture, magazines, and the trigger group (I'm assuming JP is not changing that part of the rifle, but I could be mistaken in this assumption). Putting personal likes and dislikes aside, it's hard to argue that a non-reciprocating side charging handle at the receiver, or as Foxtrot Mike does, at the front of the handguard is not an improvement over the current charging handle. And getting rid of the receiver extension/buffer tube would be an even better idea, how much cooler would these guns be if they had folding stocks that didn't add complexity to the gun's action, and could be fired with the stock folded? I didn't say now useful would they be, I asked how cool would they be...

Everything he said.

Except it's not non-reciprocating...

But it (a side charging upper) won't make you move any slower, and won't prevent you from shooting in the center of the target. Point is, if you're redesigning the gun completely, going clean slate with new proprietary parts,, why not get rid of the (relative to a side charging handle) ergonomically awful rear charging handle? And the buffer tube? And make the side charging handle switchable to accommodate left handed shooters. Even do it with the charging handle on the handguard like FM? There's no downside to a side charging gun vs. the AR style rear charging.

Got two side charging AR9 rifles, a Glock magazine gun with a New Frontier Armory side charging upper on a New Frontier Armory clone lower (ATI). Works great, whole gun weighs about 6.5 lbs. You can get a Gibbz Arms side charging upper which is similar to the NFA for $220.00, for an additional $75.00 you get an upper that doesn't look cobbled together, and doesn't have the charging handle coming out the back into your face. Not ambidextrous, so if you're left handed, probably not for you. Second is a Matrix Arms side charging upper (old version) on a Spikes Tactical Colt magazine lower. Again works great. Weighs 6.4 lbs. Neither requires any proprietary parts, using common bolts and lower parts.

It's actually resistance that makes larger things generally fall slower than smaller things. It's all about surface area, which feathers have tons of by design, which makes them fall slower than say a solid thing od the same size. They're the exception (size-wise) that proves the rule.. Or something..., I too am not an engineer.

I have a RIA VR80 that has no such issues. Feeds from the five round mags that came with the gun fine, ten round mags (9 round mags with the magazine floorplate retainer modified), 19 round box mags, and 20 round drum just fine. Even cycles Herters 1050 fps target loads no problem. More details would be helpful.

Essentially redesigning the entire upper with almost all proprietary parts, and didn't think to incorporate a decent, non-reciprocating side charging handle.

I have three, Had to deburr some sharp edges, otherwise the fit is fine. Holds the gun with no wiggle. Rigid enough to not flop around even with the shorter Blade Tech bolt pattern on a Springer Precision mount. Got three, one for S&W M&P, one for Beretta 92X Performance, and one for CZ Shadow 2. All work fine.

Ordered one last week. This is what came with the order confirmation: . Hi Robert, we're getting your shot timer built and it will take some little time before it ready to be shipped. We will notify you when it has been sent.

Gravity is the same, but any friction inside the grip is another story. And there can be friction from not getting a proper mag catch press, the gun not being perpendicular to the ground, or just dirt/dust/grit that may get inside the gun.

I've used Arredondo, Dawson, Taylor Freelance, and TTI. Of these, the Arredondo extensions are the easiest to install, slip over the mag body and grip the entire base, hole 23 +1 easily reloadable, super easy to remove (I rarely remove them, but when I do, it's a painless process), secure, and have been reliable since purchased in 2009, and they fit the USPSA gauge. They used to be a lot less expensive than they are now. Dawson, Taylor Freelance, and TTI are all also nice extensions, but getting the 23 rounds into them can be a pain.

Not even close to legal length. From their webpage: These are too long for "Limited Class" magazines, limited class maximum length is 140.25mm. They will work for “Open Class” with a maximum length of 170.25mm. It adds 1.655” to the length and overall mag length is 149.45mm.

Arredondo. Give you 20 + 1 in G35, affordable, easy to take off for cleaning (but let's be real, this is a Glock, I've never cleaned any of my Glock mags), and they fit the gauge.

Might want to weigh it, it's pretty close to the weight limit without the light.

It is hard to put a price on good customer service. Even better when you don't need any after transaction customer service.

Yeah, took 4 pages for him to show up. Disappointing.

I was wondering when Scotty P would make an appearance in this thread...

I've blown too many stages to remember, so I know which guns lock back, which guns auto-forward, and which guns jam at the least convenient times... Practice is probably my best, but least seen friend, hopefully since I recently retired me and him can get reacquainted...

Hard to put a price on looking cool...

Betting it wasn't any slower either. If this is the case, there's no negative to having the slide auto-forward.

No, but when we do, it's nice to have the auto forward feature.

My post applies to me and me only. What you or anyone else chooses to do in the privacy of your own home is none of my business, provided nobody else's rights are infringed upon. That said, I'd like to reiterate, I'm not licking my balls if I suddenly develop the ability to... In case it's not obvious, this is all tongue-in-cheek humor from me.

Even if I could, I'm not licking balls. Not even my own. If I can get through life without ever having balls anywhere near my mouth, I'll consider it a victory.