Adam B Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I was looking through an old issue (1990's era) of Guns and I saw a 5.5 inch STI, would that be limited legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 A six is legal and a hacksaw is legal so, yes? (I have no idea if that's how the rules work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) STI Competitor Circa 2002 I can't find anything for a limited gun... Edited December 8, 2008 by Matt Cheely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think STI used ot call their 5" Open guns 5.5's did they not? Maybe they did the same on Limiteds allowing as the bull barrel stuck out a little past the slide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Cool. I've still got an Eagle 5.0 for a back up to my 6"FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 A 5.5" will fit in the IPSC box and so is legal for IPSC Standard. As far as I know it is not legal for USPSA limited. BTW someone said with a little creativity they could get a 6" bull barrel gun into the IPSC box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Abrahams Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 A 5.5" will fit in the IPSC box and so is legal for IPSC Standard. As far as I know it is not legal for USPSA limited.BTW someone said with a little creativity they could get a 6" bull barrel gun into the IPSC box. i dont understand why a 5.5" would not be legal for USPSA Limited? There is no restriction on handgun size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adiksaputok Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 how can be a 6" legal and not a 5.5" just wondering why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I don't think there is anything illegal in shorting a 6" to a 5.5" Not a gunsmith so no idea if that could even work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Appendix D2 21 Authorized modifications . •Replacement barrels – provided they are the same length as original factory standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 how can be a 6" legal and not a 5.5" just wondering why Somebody's have to build 500 5.5" top ends, make them available to the general public, and fill out some paperwork certifying that and submit it to NROI..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Abrahams Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) the rule states: "Any complete handgun or components with a minimum production of 500 units by a factory and available to the general public." So how does this work for custom gun builders? I noticed Matt Cheely posted, so to use his work as an example. Would he have to build 500 custom guns and get approval OR is it that fact that he is using components that have sold over 500 that makes his (and other custom builders) work legal? Furthermore, does it matter what he does (ie unique slide cuts, barrel fluting, barrel shortening) to these components as long as they are kept factory length? so is the only thing keeping the 5.5 inch gun illegal is the lack of a 5.5 inch barrel made available to the public? Edited January 2, 2009 by W.Abrahams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 fuzzy memory time, I seem to remember the sti 5.5 guns were their comp gun before the trubore came out. the lst half inch was threaded to screw the comp on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 We've already established that over 500 6" components have been produced, and the 6" limited guns themselves are certainly modified to suit the owner (slide lightening, custom artistic cuts, fluted bull barrels, ect), so why for discussions sake would a 5.5" gun not be considered a modified 6" gun. It obviously started out as a 6" set-up...right? Or am I missing something obvious...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Rules questions go in the...Rules Forum. Thread moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 To revisit this. A 6" gun cut down to 5.5" is not legal why? 6" barrels are legal. 6" barrels with a 5" effective length (1" back bored muzzle) are legal. Yes, I checked on that one. 6" slides are legal. Modifications to slides are legal. I remember a pic of one of TGO's Limited guns that had an extensively lightened slide. The only thing left that was 6 inches was the top that held the sight. It was nearly a 5" slide with a top rib out to 6. If the 500 count is the issue, every open barrel for a 5" slide is a 5.5 barrel. The threaded end is the only difference. For limited the end isn't threaded, but if you start with a 6 (as most barrel manfs tell me they do) then it's a modified 6". In 2013 this won't matter. However, I'd like to shoot a 5.5 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caspian guy Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Send amidon an email and ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 To revisit this. A 6" gun cut down to 5.5" is not legal why? 6" barrels are legal. 6" barrels with a 5" effective length (1" back bored muzzle) are legal. Yes, I checked on that one. 6" slides are legal. Modifications to slides are legal. I remember a pic of one of TGO's Limited guns that had an extensively lightened slide. The only thing left that was 6 inches was the top that held the sight. It was nearly a 5" slide with a top rib out to 6. If the 500 count is the issue, every open barrel for a 5" slide is a 5.5 barrel. The threaded end is the only difference. For limited the end isn't threaded, but if you start with a 6 (as most barrel manfs tell me they do) then it's a modified 6". In 2013 this won't matter. However, I'd like to shoot a 5.5 this year. Are you willing to shoot a 5.4" this year? The CZ Tactical Sport has a 5.4" barrel: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-75-tactical/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyC Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I say shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I have built several 5 1/2" guns and now shoot a 9mm in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 To revisit this. A 6" gun cut down to 5.5" is not legal why? 6" barrels are legal. 6" barrels with a 5" effective length (1" back bored muzzle) are legal. Yes, I checked on that one. 6" slides are legal. Modifications to slides are legal. I remember a pic of one of TGO's Limited guns that had an extensively lightened slide. The only thing left that was 6 inches was the top that held the sight. It was nearly a 5" slide with a top rib out to 6. If the 500 count is the issue, every open barrel for a 5" slide is a 5.5 barrel. The threaded end is the only difference. For limited the end isn't threaded, but if you start with a 6 (as most barrel manfs tell me they do) then it's a modified 6". In 2013 this won't matter. However, I'd like to shoot a 5.5 this year. Open doesn't have a 500 produced clause..... I don't think Amidon would accept certification of 500 Open barrels for Limited -- but you could ask him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Are you willing to shoot a 5.4" this year? The CZ Tactical Sport has a 5.4" barrel: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-75-tactical/ I already have this 5.5" beast from FGW! I'll send Jon an email just to be sure. I'm two for two with my legality questions so I'm hoping for the Turkey. It's not just the open barrels, it's a cut down 6" gun.... Thanks for the input. Edited March 7, 2012 by want2race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Good luck Shaun...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 To revisit this. A 6" gun cut down to 5.5" is not legal why? 6" barrels are legal. 6" barrels with a 5" effective length (1" back bored muzzle) are legal. Yes, I checked on that one. 6" slides are legal. Modifications to slides are legal. I remember a pic of one of TGO's Limited guns that had an extensively lightened slide. The only thing left that was 6 inches was the top that held the sight. It was nearly a 5" slide with a top rib out to 6. If the 500 count is the issue, every open barrel for a 5" slide is a 5.5 barrel. The threaded end is the only difference. For limited the end isn't threaded, but if you start with a 6 (as most barrel manfs tell me they do) then it's a modified 6". In 2013 this won't matter. However, I'd like to shoot a 5.5 this year. Open doesn't have a 500 produced clause..... I don't think Amidon would accept certification of 500 Open barrels for Limited -- but you could ask him..... Why would a 5.5" threaded barrel not be legal for limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
want2race Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Got the word today from DNROI that Brandon had submitted the paperwork regarding his 5.4" barrels. Good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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