lcambre Posted July 12, 2003 Share Posted July 12, 2003 The S&W 686 .38 super with a 4" barrel was put on the CA DOJ list last week. Tom and I already have ours ordered. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillster Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hi, first let me say that I am a revolver guy and that I don't think anyone needs a reason to buy a new gun, I just have a question (that was intended as a "flame-proof" disclaimer). Is a 686 in .38super a good IDPA (which I've never shot) set-up or is there another need driving the develpoment? Pardon my ignorance if this comes out as a stupid question but I've been curious about a possible use since I saw that S&W was producing one. Thanks, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted July 15, 2003 Share Posted July 15, 2003 Chris, I have the new 686 38 super.. Man it is great.. Yes it is good for idpa. and the 686 38-357 is also. But the 38 super comes from the factory set up for moon clips. so if you want a great moon clip gun it is the way to go.. Because if you change a 357 to a moon clip you cant shoot it in idpa. Leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Love Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Leroy- What kind of power factor loads would be o.k. to shoot in the 686 .38 super? Would you want to shoot major loads for any reason, such as IPSC, or would you simply want to shoot minor loads for all the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 I perfer the minor loads it is easier on me and the gun and it make me try and shoot more acurate. Leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFDAVIS1 Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 doj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcambre Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 doj? California Department of Justice. State department in charge of firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Is it a catalog item or a PC product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George D Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Pat, It's shown in both the S&W catalog and the Performance Centre. Specs seem the same so it may come down to tuning differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcambre Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 It's shown on their web site as a Performance center gun distributed by Bangers. 686 .38 Super Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George D Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 It's shown on their web site as a Performance center gun distributed by Bangers. 686 .38 Super It is also in Smith's standard catalog. Go to http://www.smith-wesson.com/Products/Firea...ect_firearm.cfm and search on model 686 or calibre 38 super. The PC model appears(???) to be a tweaked version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 It looks like they are the same. They have the same product code in both sections. What price are these going for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardboardkiller Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 S&W is only producing the 686 in 38 super as a Performance Center gun. I saw one on gunsamerica I believe for $839, I am going to have my dealer check on one for me tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 I paid 849.00 for mine thats the best price i could find.. It really is a great shooting gun. Leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLover Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Maybe you guys should try the S&W model 60-14. Shoots the 38 super and ejects them just fine. Cost....about $600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehli Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Zombie thread. Shoot it in the head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 A 686 38 Super with a barrel of 4.2 inches or less is good to go in IDPA SSR Division with a PF of 105.. IF.. you load it from a speedloader. If you load it from moon clips it moves to ESR and must make a 165 PF. I am a IDPA SO, and a copy of the current Rule Book lives in my range bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The real question is: Was that the rule 9 years ago when this thread was relevant? -ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Maybe you guys should try the S&W model 60-14. Shoots the 38 super and ejects them just fine. Cost....about $600 Isn't the mod 60-14 a .357 J frame? Edited January 12, 2013 by toothguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLover Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Toothguy, You are correct, but check the specs on a 357 and then match it to a 38 super. There is only a minute difference. The 38 super has a smaller rim and that is about the only difference. On most 357's, the 38 super falls into the cylinder, but...when loaded into a 60-14, they are caught by the ejector. Then after fired, they eject fine. I have two 60-14's and they both work well with 38 super. Of course you get the same recoil as with a 357 in the J frame. Before I bought my 60-14's I checked to see if the ejector caught the 38 super first. I only wish my Dan Wesson would have been suitable to shoot 38 supers in, but it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I wasn't sure why you would want to shoot 38 super (.356) in a .357 J frame. There are so many loads available with the correct ammunition. I guess in an emergency? Edited January 13, 2013 by toothguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COF Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 The real question is: Was that the rule 9 years ago when this thread was relevant? -ld Negatory. Just one division back then. I tried to find a 9mm Speed 6 -thought it would be a neat little gun to shoot in SSR. Never found one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWLover Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Toothguy: "I wasn't sure why you would want to shoot 38 super (.356) in a .357 J frame. There are so many loads available with the correct ammunition. I guess in an emergency?" I get the same fire power that one would get with a 357 when using 38 super and the cost is quiet a bit less. Of course there is always the 38 standard or + P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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