kellyn Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Red pill or blue pill? I took the red pill. I generally liked Reloaded, except the first 45 minutes. The dance/orgy/rave at Zion was lame. I hope Zion has more to offer than that or most people will want to stay in the Matrix. The action scenes were cool especially the car chase sequence. I think that Hugo Weaving really steals the show as Agent Smith. The debates on control/free will and destiny/choice are a cut above most action movies. The machinations of the Architect and the ultimate purpose of the One did come as a surprise but I was not surprised at all at Neo's choice. It is interesting that fear of technology drives so many sci-fi blockbusters. The Matrix and Terminator films are so similiar in their view that the machines we create will eventually gain awareness, that they will be hostile, and that they will be more powerful but the puny humans will triumph due to our spunk, creativity, and emotions, particularly love and compassion. See what Open class will do to us! Stay in Limited and save humanity! Finally I'm very jealous of my wife. We're both trial attorneys and the day after we saw Reloaded, she had a trial in which a witness was named you guessed it .... "Mr. Anderson." Every question began with a dead pan "Mr. Anderson." She told me she could hardly keep from cracking up in Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Absolutely loved it! Saw it last Sunday. I have many questions and will probably have to see it again to catch some more of the dialog. The Albino's rocked! Zion was totally cool, except for the rave/sex scene, it was lame and added totally nothing to the film. Seemed like it lasted 15 minutes, although it was probably more like 4 or 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Were there any . . . guns . . . featured in the movie? (which emoticon do you use when you're being a disingenuous wisea**?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 "Overdone" I think they tried to put to much in it and made watching it tedious. The effects and fights scenes were very good. Many pointless scenes and dialog. If you are going to make an eye candy movie, at least keep the pace up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 It's made being an Anderson even better than alphabetical order. All my employees address me as... "Mr. Anderson" SA Glock 18, full auto strong hand oly of the back of a semi. smg with c-more Berettas galore one sw99 not as much gunplay, as the matrix powers have made bullets fairly irrelevant. I loved it, going again son. Has anybody figured out why neo has powers in the real world? (stopping the robots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradC Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 "Its like wiping your a$$ with silk" I very much enjoyed the movie!! I saw again last night and now I really can't wait for Revolutions!!! While the Zion scene was fairly long, it did serve to show the link between Neo, Trinity and the rest of humanity which will hopefully save them all. Very interesting theories popping through the rattle trap I call a brain right now. Too spoiler rich to discuss though!! Not enough gun play, but is there ever really enough? BradC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 I was going to keep this spoiler free for now, just in case people on the forums haven't seen it yet. But, Mr. Anderson has asked the same question I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Mr Anderson, Why Neo can stop the robots - My guess is that he is still in the Matrix, just a different version, and he doesn't know it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradC Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 As to Neo and Robots... perhaps Neo has gone 802.11b .. wireless =) Actually, I think as Smith was able to imprint himself on Bane, Neo carries part of the Matrix with him. The machines are all connected to the Matrix and so is Neo giving him the same element of control outside the digital realm of the matrix. The question is, why did it tax him so? BradC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 The same reason his eyes hurt in the first one? "you've never used them" ?????? SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Heiter Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 I'm thinking Neo has become part machine/program, blurring the line between the two "species". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Has anybody figured out why neo has powers in the real world? (stopping the robots) LOL...I haven't seen the movie yet. But...isn't it obvious...expecially on Brian's Forum??? Neo is aware. He has left behind the trappings and limitations of the mind. It just is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Nice. That seals it. I'm NOT the one, after all. (my wife was right) Flex and I have discussed before the similiarities of the matrix and shooting, there are parallels. I also confess I have used some matrix visualization at matches. The scene in the first one where Neo gets shot at the end, then exhales and is "regenerated" is good for me before a stage as a tension reducer. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dame Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 The SMG looked like the H&K UMP, I was hopeing for more gun play but the fight scenes made up for it. A few questions, if Neo is supposed to be the the key piece to the existence of the Matrix, why are the agents trying to kill him? How can the next cycle end when there isn't a key master to let the new "One" into the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hugo Weaving is a wonderful actor. Check him out in a little Aussie film called The Interview. Weaving won his second Best Actor award from the Australian Film Institute - the Australian equivalent of winning a Best Actor Oscar - for his work in that film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 There's suppose to be a preview for #3 after the credits were over. I left the moment the credits popped up. Anyone catch the preview??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liota Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Scooter, We stayed. The credits were loooonnnnngggg. The preview was just a little snippet. It looked good. Better than Reloaded. Liota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 I liked parts of it, especially the reality debates, but in general thought it drug and was too cheesy. The love and disco scenes could go altogether. It was nothing compared to X2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 My question is if we are living in the Matrix, why would The Matrix allow a movie to be made about The Matrix making all of us aware of The Matrix??? Generally liked Reloaded - love the fact that there are so many questions left unanswered ie why does Neo have powers in the real world, what is the role of "The One", what the hell is going to happen to Mr. Smith etc. etc. I don't think we know the whole story (as the producers see it) yet. That's classic - the movie set will go down in history. I really enjoyed the first one - it was absolutely awesome. Second could have been better but I have to admit - for a sequel it was rock solid (OK BE - it ain't X2 - but what is?). And is it me or is Trinity hot? JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Again, I agee with jb. Trinity is hot, specially with a Beretta! "Maybe you'd like to sample this!" SA Going again today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 And is it me or is Trinity hot? Trinity is way hot! I haven't even seen the movie yet (just the original), and I know that Trinity is hot! I even have her original action figures (1:6 scale), both "in" the Matrix and "out." Wait . . . I probably should not have admitted that. No, I definitely should have kept that to myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I saw it yesterday and I really liked it. I have an opinion about Neo that you may not want to read if you haven't seen the movie yet. Hell you may not want to read it anyway Someone else suggested that Neo was still in a version of the Matrix when he defeated the robots. I agree. The spoon that he receives from the Oracle is a hint that this is so. This Matrix overlay would serve the purpose of containing rogue humans and programs both. -ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 They may have been in an "alternate" Matrix, but something is still a bit off - that is to say that there is still a lot more to the story. If you haven't seen the movie - don't read anymore. If during that scene Neo thought he was in the real world, he would have no inclination to try and utilize his "Matrix" powers. He say's "I can feel them" which he wouldn't be able to do right? The thing is, his mind set wouldn't have led him to contemplate such a feeling (because he "knew" he was in the real world and not the Matrix) - but he did, and he acted upon those feelings - hence he is still "The One" and there is more to come. Neo will discover (if all this is true) that they are in an alternate Matrix, that the prodigy may still be true and that yes indeed - Trinity is hot. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 I saw it this afternoon and it was really good! Ordinarily I prefer more shootin' and less foitin' and less car chasin', but that big brawl that Neo has when he first encounters the new and improved Agent Smith was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Ok, you guys want a transcript of the conversation between the Architect and Neo inside the mainframe? I can paste it in this thread if you want. Somehow it gives a hint of Zion being another Matrix to resolve the "problem" of "Choice". But...why in all the programs' advancement will a designer make a system with no hardware reset switch? Why let a program, one that you have no full control (Neo) at that, do the "upgrades" you made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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