Ameiza Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 I've noticed that some of you guys convert your newer powder measure back to the old style with springs. Why is that? Also, I wonder what is the difference between a 550/650 powder measure and a super 1050 measure? I see that the 1050's are a few buck more at Dillons webpage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Bagger Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Well, why? Speak up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Also, I wonder what is the difference between a 550/650 powder measure and a super 1050 measure? I see that the 1050's are a few buck more at Dillons webpage. I asked Dillon about that.. To tell them apart: the part of the measure that screws into the press is black vs silver.. the 1050 is supposed to be hardened (or simeothing). they told me it didn't matter for the home reloader.. but it might for commercial loaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameiza Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 I asked Dillon about that.. To tell them apart: the part of the measure that screws into the press is black vs silver.. the 1050 is supposed to be hardened (or simeothing). they told me it didn't matter for the home reloader.. but it might for commercial loaders. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Hello: I voted for the old spring type. It is alot smoother than the newer lever arm type. I actually converted my newer powder measure to the older spring type. Now it works nice and smooth. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Bagger Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Any pictures out there of the "old" spring style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x21 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Hello: I voted for the old spring type. It is alot smoother than the newer lever arm type. I actually converted my newer powder measure to the older spring type. Now it works nice and smooth. Thanks, Eric +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameiza Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Here is a pic of the spring type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benos Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Even if you put the springs on, be sure to ALWAYS leave the Failsafe mechanism hooked up. If you don't believe me just ask Henning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 In our experience, the new design delivers powder charges at least as accurate as the older design, and in the case of chunky extruded and large flake powders, improves powder drop accuracy by settling the powder a bit with each operation. You can improve the "smoothness" by tightening the blue wing nut, so that the lock-link is only partially engaged behind the powder measure body.Our position is that there is no loss in accuracy of the powder drop, and there is a significantly decreased possibility of an operator-induced double charge on auto indexing machines with the new design. Plus I like not having that pesky (and sharp) throttle clip to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I use both! I have the new style failsafe system with one of the old springs installed. This allows the powder bar to come back to a 1/2 way or centre position and when the failsafe rod is lowered more, it snaps the powder bar back. It still allows the new failsafe to work as Dillon intended. I have converted all my Dillon Powder measures to this system on all my presses. Try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Ozinga Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I use both!I have the new style failsafe system with one of the old springs installed. This allows the powder bar to come back to a 1/2 way or centre position and when the failsafe rod is lowered more, it snaps the powder bar back. It still allows the new failsafe to work as Dillon intended. I have converted all my Dillon Powder measures to this system on all my presses. Try it. +1 My powder measure is the new kind, but I ordered additional springs to get somewhat smoother operating. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 wait a minute, Dillon didn't use the mask guy to sign off his post with, what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sinnsyk Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 (edited) damn it Brian... I had tried to suppress that story... In 1998 I had my 1050 set up at Brian's ranch outside Phoenix as I was traveling between Norway and US at the time. I was shooting Vectan SP2 which would eat up the dillon powder bars and climaxed it's troubles right there and then. I used the spring w/o the failsafe and I had one round with no powder in it. Off to Nationals I went and shoot a speed shoot that went... poof. No powder, just a bullet & primer. That would have been.. 'fine', except a DNF'd stage... but.. it got better... Upon hearing the 'poof', I turned to the RO and said... well that's that, right? I unloaded the gun and asked the RO if we should check if there's a bullet in the barrel. I'm pretty sure he said yes and there was some confusion at this point. To me, the stage ( and match ) was screwed, gun cleared so now it's more interesting to find out if the bullet's still in the barrel. I thought the RO was okay with everything so I swung the gun up to take a peek into the barrel from the muzzle end to check it. It was one of those 0.2 seconds swing-check-confirm-okay-done deals for me. But, not for the RO.. he went like..."I... I... I... I.. saw muzzle.." So he DQ'd me for breaking the 180... Not that I cared that much since I'd already lost 80 stage points... but... for him to be 100% sure to say that I broke the 180 I thought was a bit questionable. Plus the fact that the gun was cleared, I assumed we were more or less in a temporary established safe area at this point... I guess he didn't see it that way... the fact that I had poked at my own head.. for 0.05 seconds... probably still bothers him to this day, who knows.. so I got to go back to the casino and drink beer instead of shoot, oh well big deal... ;-) Edited September 5, 2007 by sinnsyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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