TDean Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) I wonder what the total % of Open shooters this year used 9x19mm. How many of the top 20 (if any) used 9mm? Who was the top 9mm finisher? (Yong, who I know was shooting 9mm finished 25th) I'll fill these in as we go... 1 Tilley TY38861 GM Open Major.................38TJ 2. Michel Jr. A26022 GM Open Major...........38sc 3 Racaza A40802 GM Open Major 4. Vidanes L1993 GM Open Major ...............9mm 5 Wallgren TY25335 GM Open Major...........38SC 6 Balsley TY44785 GM Open Major..............38SC 7 Kirsch TYF44236 GM Open Major..............38SC 8 Eusebio A36570 GM Open Major..............38SC 9 Norris A44276 GM Open Major..................38sc 10 McLearn A13279 GM Open Major............38SC 11 Smith TY38969 M Open Major No............38s 12 Saiti TY49393 GM Open Major 13 Guida TY41202 M Open Major 14 Bragg L2476 GM Open Major...................38s 15 Murdock TYF45606 M Open Major 16 J Ballesteros A53823 U Open Major.........38s 17 Francisco A35324 M Open Major..............38SC 18 Craig FY15086 GM Open Major 19 Byfield A568 GM Open Major 20 Re A25626 M Open Major........................38sc Edited November 1, 2006 by TDean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 JoJo shoots a 9 but not sure about this Nat's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Holy crap !!! My name shows up in a snippet from major match results!!! That "Re" guy shot .38 SuperComp. BJ shoots SuperComp. Henning shot .38 Super-ish. Max shot .38 SuperComp. Those are the only gaps I can fill in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Holy crap !!! My name shows up in a snippet from major match results!!! Top 20 at the Open Nationals. Now that's something to be damn proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 To fill in a few more blanks, numbers 11, 14 & 16 all shot Super and #1 shot Super or SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin garcia Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Jojo V. shot 9mm major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I think Jojo is the only one who shot 9....everyone else shot supercomp or a 38 variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.J. Norris Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Here's what I know of. 1 Tilley TY38861 GM Open Major....... 38 TJ 2. Michel Jr. A26022 GM Open Major............38 SC 3 Racaza A40802 GM Open Major 4. Vidanes L1993 GM Open Major........ 9MM 5 Wallgren TY25335 GM Open Major..............38 SC 6 Balsley TY44785 GM Open Major.......... 38 SC 7 Kirsch TYF44236 GM Open Major........... 38 SC 8 Eusebio A36570 GM Open Major........... 38 SC 9 Norris A44276 GM Open Major...................38 SC 10 McLearn A13279 GM Open Major.........38 SC 11 Smith TY38969 M Open Major No 12 Saiti TY49393 GM Open Major........... 38 SC 13 Guida TY41202 M Open Major 14 Bragg L2476 GM Open Major 15 Murdock TYF45606 M Open Major 16 J Ballesteros A53823 U Open Major 17 Francisco A35324 M Open Major........... 38 Super 18 Craig FY15086 GM Open Major 19 Byfield A568 GM Open Major 20 Re A25626 M Open Major........................38sc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 how many of those top 20 pay full price for their SC brass. if money wasn't an object i would be shooting 38sc as well. i switched to 9mm just because the brass is really cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharyn Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) #11 shoots Super Comp, not Super. edited to add: I'm pretty sure #14 is also Super Comp. Edited November 2, 2006 by Sharyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) how many of those top 20 pay full price for their SC brass. if money wasn't an object i would be shooting 38sc as well. i switched to 9mm just because the brass is really cheap +1 172 Gary L2398 B Open ....... 9MM Hey, the gun ran flawlessly (thanks JPL!). It isn't the gun's fault that I suck ... B Edited November 2, 2006 by bgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 I shoot with Rick Byfield and usually he runs .38 Super but I think he was shooting SuperComp during the Nats from what one of our fellow shooters (who was also at the Nats) told me. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 how many of those top 20 pay full price for their SC brass. if money wasn't an object i would be shooting 38sc as well. i switched to 9mm just because the brass is really cheap. I know for sure at least two people on that list pay full retail for their 38SC brass. I think it's one of those commitment things-- if you want to be at the top, you go with the best you can afford. It may also be these guys have been shooting quite a while and have stocks of brass and mags and guns in those calibers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Hunter Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 what is 38TJ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmap Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 what is 38TJ ? TJ = Todd Jarrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) Most of them pay retail for their brass. A few get free bullets, a few get 1 or 2 free guns - or at least the frame. That's about it. If you think even 3 ppl on that list can cover their expenses thru endorsements you'd be wrong. They teach 35 weekends a year or they build guns full time or they make good money at their day job and spend it on gear. late add: 3 Racaza A40802 GM Open Major 38SC Edited November 2, 2006 by eric nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L9X25 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Most of them pay retail for their brass. A few get free bullets, a few get 1 or 2 free guns - or at least the frame. That's about it.If you think even 3 ppl on that list can cover their expenses thru endorsements you'd be wrong. They teach 35 weekends a year or they build guns full time or they make good money at their day job and spend it on gear. Unfortunately, the majority of what Eric said is true ... very sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 This info parallels what I was told when I built my Open gun - 38SC or 38TJ was what the top shooters were using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.L. Hardy Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 what we really see in this info is that top shooters don't change their equipment or loads like they do their underwear. Good shooters don't look for the holy grail in a certain caliber or gun style or load. They get equipment that works for them and then work on their shooting skills. I think if asked, the top shooters have used what they have for long time. It works, so why change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 (edited) I can't edit my original post (forum edit rule) so here's the tally.. 1 Tilley TY38861 GM Open Major.................38TJ 2. Michel Jr. A26022 GM Open Major............38SC 3. Racaza A40802 GM Open Major ..............38SC 4. Vidanes L1993 GM Open Major .................9mm 5. Wallgren TY25335 GM Open Major.............38SC 6 Balsley TY44785 GM Open Major................38SC 7. Kirsch TYF44236 GM Open Major...............38SC 8. Eusebio A36570 GM Open Major................38SC 9. Norris A44276 GM Open Major...................38SC 10. McLearn A13279 GM Open Major..............38SC 11. Smith TY38969 M Open Major .................38SC 12. Saiti TY49393 GM Open Major..................38SC 13. Guida TY41202 M Open Major..................38SC 14.Bragg L2476 GM Open Major.....................38SC 15. Murdock TYF45606 M Open Major 16. J Ballesteros A53823 U Open Major............38super 17. Francisco A35324 M Open Major................38super 18. Craig FY15086 GM Open Major 19. Byfield A568 GM Open Major.....................38SC 20.Re A25626 M Open Major...........................38SC Edited November 3, 2006 by TDean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.J. Norris Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Tom, I think you missed a cut and paste somewhere. #17, Ron Francisco used 38 Super and #12, Nick Saiti used 38 SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Looks like the old addage is true, if it ain't broke don't fix it. When I first got into reloading I tried a TON of different bullets with a few different powders in the name of trying to build a better mouse trap *turned into reinventing the wheel though*. I did work up a new load that I hadn't seen anywhere else using Longshot powder and a 200 grain HP bullet in .45 ACP for pin shooting by doing so and that is now my standard load for that. I also have a load for Berry's Plated 185 HBRN that I use just for plinking using HP-38 and one that makes USPSA Major using Clays *both with the same bullet*. By the way, I THINK my 185 plinking load might make minor *I still need to chrono that load* but it runs a full weight 1911 slide without a hick up on about a 7 pound spring. Feels like you are shooting an air soft gun. lol When I got into shooting .38 Super I took what I had learned over the years and worked up ONE load and that is all I shoot out of that gun. I see no need to have all these extra loads for a dedicated gun that is only used in one sport. I will have to say that my playing around with loads for my .45 ACP did help me out a lot with picking a powder for my .38 Super. Because I was playing around so much with differing powder charges I notices a lack of preasure issues even with larger powder charges. Yeah there is a funky power curve but once I figured that out I worked up to a major load using a chrono and even though I could go a lot faster there wasn't a need to so I backed the charge down to about a 169-170 PF. As long as I have access to the 124 grain bullets I am using I see no need to ever change a thing on the gun, my loads or my loading press for a long time to come. Then again shooting with a GM and a few Master shooters I take what they say to heart, after all it has gotten them to where they are now right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Primarily we're talking about the amount of gas produced to work the comp. I think if 9mm was better the .38SC they would all jump on it. I think if 9mm was even, there would be no motivation to change. I think if 9mm generated less gas because of powder limitations in the smaller case, only the tragically hip would jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Having shot guns in both calibers... I'd say overall that its pretty washy... Its a matter of taste - how do you like the gun to feel and move. The 9mm guns seem to be a bit more sharp, to me (likely because of the standard practice of using a faster powder). I like the nice round, smooth feel the recoil impulse in my gun has (its not slow - but its not harsh, either). Some guys like sharp, quick impulse, some guys don't. Unless something comes along that just offers too much advantage to pass up, I don't see that changing a whole lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammo_burner21 Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 just to fill in another blank...# 13 also used 38 supercomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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