A-shot Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I have been wanting to shoot open recently. I'm new to the game, I've been shooting limited with a g35. Would a stealth package from SJC be worth it to get into open relatively quickly and cheaply? Anyone with a SJC glock? I'm going to get an open pistol built by Bedell soon, but time is an issue. Then I want a BHFF for limited. I'm thinking of turning the g35 into an open pistol, which I'm not feeling as much as getting a g17 and having them go to it. I live in Cali, so legalities and such are always a consideration. Mags would be an expense that I wouldn't have to deal with just yet if I shot the glock in open, coz I already have the mags tuned and ready. Mag tuning for the widebodies would have to be more $$$ that I could just save right now...I guess time is more important to me than $$$ at the moment, but I don't want to blow my budget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaJoe Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 I live in Cali, so legalities and such are always a consideration. You need to contact SJC about this. This is the hang up. Good luck and let us know how it goes. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) Steave will press fit the barrel for us in the Kali Kartel, it's all good...no threads, no mess. Unless, of course, the laws have changed within the last 90 days. It's hard to keep up. Edited October 12, 2006 by A-shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 You can thread barrels in California. They just have to be permanently attached is all. Not a big deal. From all I've seen and heard, the SJC's are the heat. Take your G35 and have them build you a 9 Major upper for it. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAJ Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I have a S & J Customs Glock 17 open gun and love it. John and Steave are great to deal with there and they build a great product. Sevigny finished 5th at the Steel Challenge with one just like mine and I finished in the top 32. The gun is dependable and just plain fun to shoot. My first shot times are quicker than with my STI gun. You can buy a complete 17 for about $2000. Look them up at www.glockjockey.com SAJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 The last time I spoke with John, sometime in August, he was not sending threaded barrels into California. We were both under the impression that it was illegal to be in possession of a threaded barrel (without the right permits) in California. He did mention that he was looking for a California solution. Apparently he has had to turn away a lot of business. I shot Randy Jackson's SJC gun at the Steel Challenge and it was very nice. Now all I have to do is move out of California. Itchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 (edited) I have a S & J Customs Glock 17 open gun and love it. John and Steave are great to deal with there and they build a great product. Sevigny finished 5th at the Steel Challenge with one just like mine and I finished in the top 32. The gun is dependable and just plain fun to shoot. My first shot times are quicker than with my STI gun. You can buy a complete 17 for about $2000. Look them up at www.glockjockey.com SAJ Hey wait a second, I just put 2 and 2 together! SAJ must be Randy Jackson. Is that single action Jackson? Hmm. Only 3 S&J guns at 2006 Steel Challenge. Hmm. Dave S. Jessie A. and Randy J. Hmm. Top 32. Whew! Itchy (my goal for next Steel Challenge...be smart enough to shoot IDPA with a flashlight!) Edited October 13, 2006 by itchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 If the comp is permanently attached, it's not "threaded" any longer. I have two open guns in California. Both have the comps permanently attached. Not like it matters in the sense of switching out comps anyways. 'Bout the time you want to change the barrel, you'll probably need to change the comp too. It's fine. Contact CA-DOJ and they'll explain it. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctgun Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 The only real problem that I see with permantly attaching a comp to a barrel on a Glock is that cleaning is going to be a pain in the a$$. Because you won't be able to remove the barrel from the slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 The only real problem that I see with permantly attaching a comp to a barrel on a Glock is that cleaning is going to be a pain in the a$$. Because you won't be able to remove the barrel from the slide Not a problem turn the slide over and let it hang. Brian Hawley did a very nice job on my Glock 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyops Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 +1 for SJC. John built a Stealth for me and it runs like a dream. The price is right, the service is outstanding and the quality is second to none. I shipped Steave my G35 and within 4 weeks I had a Open Glock ready to roll. Call Steave you won't be sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaJoe Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 The last time I spoke with John, sometime in August, he was not sending threaded barrels into California. We were both under the impression that it was illegal to be in possession of a threaded barrel (without the right permits) in California. He did mention that he was looking for a California solution. And the same here. This is the only reason I mentioned it. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaseyJ Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I have the honor to shoot with Grant, Steave's Brother, at my local club, if Steave and John are a nice, personable, and Honest as Grant is I would do bussiness with them any day, and probably will in the future when i get a glock that he makes parts for. I asked Grant to ask Steave if there is any way that He could coerce his brother into making a Magwell for my 20, then next day he said, " man I am really sorry and my brother told me to tell you that he is soory that they don't make any magwells that will work on my 20. He gave me a few options and I am currently pursuing them. I have shot Grant's 24 and I think it is the Nicest Glock I have ever shot, Great tigger job, and Awesome Stippling. Once again just my $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 The only real problem that I see with permantly attaching a comp to a barrel on a Glock is that cleaning is going to be a pain in the a$$. Because you won't be able to remove the barrel from the slide At firt, not thinking Glock, I was thinking 1911 I was like, WTF? Then I rememberd how Glocks come apart. This would be a problemregardless of what state you live in. I plan on getting a SJC open Glock too, and you can bet I'm not takin' the comp off every time to clean it. I'd do this. After removing the guide rod assembly, flip the slide upside down and mount it into a little vice (the cheap portable kind that suction cup to a table and have rubber covers over the "grabbers" so not to scratch anything). Pick the barrel up and slide towards the muzzle and it'll pivot as it is allowed to clear the striker area (I don't know what to call it). Then just clean the barrel and comp. When it comes time to knock out the chunks out of the comp, repeat with the slide in the vice sitting normall so you can scrape/chisel out the crud. My first thoughts, but threading a comp off and on every time to clean would be a pain in the ass regardless. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-shot Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Couldn't you also just get old school and soak the slide, barrel and comp in some stuff, then scrub it with a toothbrush? Soap and water every month or so, then oil, should be ok. I really don't care if the comp can or can't come off, as long as it doesn't come OFF when it shouldn't!! I'm gonna shoot it, there are not as many affordable options to get into open division within CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinwb Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I shot a glock open gun in 9 major and it was pretty sweet but then I shot a race gun in .38 super and the difference was night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Scientist Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I shot a glock open gun in 9 major and it was pretty sweet but then I shot a race gun in .38 super and the difference was night and day. was the glock a slide mounted optic or a frame mounted??? I have shot several 1911 patern open guns next to my open Glock and I cant see any diference. I shot an early doctor sighted gun and it was harsh compared to what I have now a days. I had at the same time a caspion hybride gun , an sti hybride38 , an sv comp only gun38 , and an old para that I fooled with in 9x21for a while . I sold all the 1911 guns and havent looked back . these guns where my bench mark . To see if the Glock was going to be up to the task. What I found was that the Glock was so much faster in transition that any percieved advantage in splits is washed out to the positive . are they as flat I think so are they as soft ? with the right load. I realy think that any one that gives them a chance will find that an open glock will take them to any level they will put in the time for. Johnnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 (edited) I cleaned my Brian Hawley open glock barrel [KKM] without a vice - just be careful not to cut your hand on the back of the slide rails. A work glove takes care of that. To clean the slide, lay out some newspaper and spray the inside with brake cleaner, shake, wipe off with paper towels or rag. That's it. I think Johnnie's set-up on a steel CCF raceframe would be a pretty sweet setup. Getting the gun's weight up near 40oz would be a plus for me. Edited October 20, 2006 by eric nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I have a S & J Customs Glock 17 open gun and love it. John and Steave are great to deal with there and they build a great product. Sevigny finished 5th at the Steel Challenge with one just like mine and I finished in the top 32. The gun is dependable and just plain fun to shoot. My first shot times are quicker than with my STI gun. You can buy a complete 17 for about $2000. Look them up at www.glockjockey.com SAJ Hey wait a second, I just put 2 and 2 together! SAJ must be Randy Jackson. Is that single action Jackson? Hmm. Only 3 S&J guns at 2006 Steel Challenge. Hmm. Dave S. Jessie A. and Randy J. Hmm. Top 32. Whew! Itchy (my goal for next Steel Challenge...be smart enough to shoot IDPA with a flashlight!) FYI You added 2&2 and got 6. SAJ is not S&J Customs. The S is for Steave & the J is for John AKA Mad Scientist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 SJC needs to come up with some kind of super secret tool to make Glock mag disassembly easier. I about chucked everything into the street taking 5 basepads off tonight. ARG!!! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hey Rich...like most things..pretty easy once you learn how to do it...frustrating as hell if you haven't got it down yet. I wish you were closer..so I could tease you about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Thanks Kyle. Really needed to read that after today's match. Shot like crap and man do I hate Glocks right now. I'll detail more in my AAR including how I was so frustrated that I considered withdrawing from the match and then got called into work. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruStreet Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 quote name='uscbigdawg' date='Oct 20 2006, 07:04 PM' post='463339'] SJC needs to come up with some kind of super secret tool to make Glock mag disassembly easier. I about chucked everything into the street taking 5 basepads off tonight. ARG!!! Rich Try this link. Hope it helps. MAG Disssembly info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yeah I found it and it helped. In the end it was me a nail file and the corner of my desk that did it. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Wonder Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 (edited) Here's a tool from Brownells........ Glock Mag Disassembly Tool Edited October 28, 2006 by Singlestack Wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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