mattbeck Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Sunday, at a match, someone mentioned seeing an early episode of Miami Vice where it actually looked like a shooter knew what they were doing. I remember seeing it in reruns recently, and thought that whoever it was looked like an IPSC shooter. Can anyone remember who this was? IIRC he was playing an assassin, and I think it was the first season. What made it stand out was two or three officers had guns drawn on him, and he made a perfect speed draw followed by double taps. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 It was Jim Zubiena (sp?). He was an actor who also shot IPSC. Their was an article years ago in Combat Handguns with a lot of still photos. Good stuff! DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 The shooter was Jim Zubiena, he shot with the group who started IPSC at Big Bear, Cooper included...won a few trophies along the way too..he and his wife Linda were good shooters..and the episode you are talking about is where he does a Mozambique on a policeman from concealment in about 1.5 sec... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Actually, I don't think it was a policeman but a CCW civilian. I saw the episode recently when watching the DVD's. Jim was playing the role of an assassin and was killing someone inside a Limo with a 12 gauge. The CCW guy got on him with his carry piece, he looked away for a second, just enough time for Jim to draw from surrender and fire a perfect Mozambique. He then goes about unloading the 45 and running off. I um.. had to re-run that scene several times.. and I think when I was watching it originally I called BS! Now I know better.. lol. Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) I believe you are mistaken...IIRC, he is walking outside and the cop gets the drop on him...pistol drawn...Jim is wearing surgical gloves and a sport coat..the cop turns his head, Jim does the Mozambique lays the High Power on the guys chest and takes off the gloves and walks off.. someone who has this on tape help us out here... I believe this scene was in season one in the episode called Calderon's Demise... Edited October 11, 2006 by tightloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbadaboom Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 It's season #1 episode #4 and the name is "Hit List". the guy that gets mozambiqued is the chauffer of the limo that the guys he hits are riding in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I managed to record that segment. It is the 4th segment of the first season titled "Calderone's Return". Zubina plays a hit man from Argentina. His is the chauffer for a couple guys he is supposed to wack. He parks the car and pulls out a nasty shotgun from the passenger side of the limo and blows the guys in back away. After this happens, he is confronted by a cop (or civilian) with big hair, a little revolver, and a yellow sweater. The cop looks away from him and into the car. Jim then does a killer surrender draw from the waistband of his outfit and delivers two aimed shots at the cop. We have talked about this before: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...261&hl=bren It is going to run on Sleuth TV again on 16 Oct. http://www.sleuthchannel.com/Schedule/sear...amp;start=today Later, Pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbadaboom Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) Found this link. I also own the entire series on dvd. Again; it is the real chauffer that walks up and gets shot. Edited October 11, 2006 by Bigbadaboom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) Found this link. I also own the entire series on dvd.Again; it is the real chauffer that walks up and gets shot. Thanks! I guess I never realized that the guy in sweater was the real driver. I guess it doesn't matter all that much since his part was not long-lived! That draw was just amazing. He was in perfect position the whole time with only the stuff that needed to be moving moving. See ya pal... EDIT: Speaking of SWPL champs and Miami Vice, go listen to the Taran Butler podcast on Burketts website. Taran does his "review" of the remake of Miami Vice. One of the funniest things that I have ever heard! Edited October 11, 2006 by ChuckS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierruiggi Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Here's Jim Zubiena's infamous mozambique scene on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cheely Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Here's Jim Zubiena's infamous mozambique scene on YouTube. You are the MAN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 YOu are the man....funny how I had forgotten this one...it is a .45 and he was not wearing a coat but drew from under his shirt..super fast...wow..Jim is the man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I'm not a shotgunner - it looks like he had his offside hand on top of the receiver to keep it down in recoil. Real technique, or was that Hollywood (the muzzle blast was off screen, so I ccouldn't tell)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Awesome clip!!! thanks for posting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbeck Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 Thanks guys. My question is answered and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 When someone said Hi-Power it threw me as I thought it was a 45.. I watched the video but couldn't tell so I left it as it was. That was an incredible draw and fire.. It appears that he used his left hand to clear his shirt and then used both hands to bring it up to position. That shotgun looked like a Franchi Spas or LAW shotgun.. and the flame and fire when he shot into the glass, though impressive looking was kind of hokie. Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbadaboom Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Even back then they gamed "hands above respective shoulders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubletap Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Does anyone know who did the Speed Rock in the Tom Cruise movie Collateral? http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2&pmmsid=1144653 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I couldn't see the draw in that clip (it seems to have been edited to PG 13), but I remember it. IIRC, Cruise did all his own stunt work in that flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeMartens Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 If you watch the special features on the disc you will see that Cruise trained with a former SAS operative and he trained with live ammo using a H&K. Mann does this with all his actors, he puts them those serious training and live fire drills. His thinking is that the actor will be more believable if they can really do what you are seeing. He explains this during interviews on the Special Edition of Heat. In the special features in Heat you see all the cops (Pacino's guys) training together and then you have Deniro's crew training, they trained seperately and with different trainers. In the clip you see Deniro taking poppers out with double taps at 10-20 yards, and the other actors doing AR work. Val Kilmer talks about the speed reload he does during the shoot out scene. It is pretty interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubletap Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I don't know how many takes it took (probably as many as needed ) but it's a pretty impressive Speed Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Correct or not (and I think it is), I appreciate the effort to make it look real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Yep, Michael Mann is the only director that gives a crap about real (as far HWeird goes) gun handling etc in his film. No 13 round revolvers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Oddly enough Tom Cruise admitted that training for collateral was the first time he had ever fired a real gun in his life. Pretty sad....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim James Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 At least after all this training, the Hollywood actors turn into big champions of gun rights, don't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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