Adam B Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I am looking to get into limited and am going to trade into a new stock edge. What are some of the majoe issues that people have had with this gun? I know what I am going to change right off the get go Aftec extractor dawson ice magwell new rear sight and fiber optic front sight hard chrome the entire gun New SVI trigger 2 lb trigger job Anything else? Mainly I am looking at what I can do to avoid any problems that other people have had with thier guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 As far as my experience goes, your list covers it. I've done all that except the extractor and the trigger. Although the trigger is on my list of to do's. Mine ran great from day one. Don't forget to re-spring it. I run either a 12.5 variable recoil spring or a heavy recoil master depending on how I feel at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Ditch the RecoilMaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I got my Edge from Dawson Precision. They tune it up a bit and I had the Aftec exctractor, Bomar rear sight, Dawson front sight, ICE magwell, and trigger job all done before it was shipped to me (these were the recommended upgrades from the Dawson sales rep). The gun ran great from day one using some borrowed magazines (see below on magazines). I got mine with the stainless guide rod as the Recoilmaster was not proven at the time. The only problems I had were with the stock STI magazines. I had STI bodeis, Dawson +1's and stock STI springs/followers. On more than one occasion the follower would flip over and stick at the bottom of the body and make the magazine useless. Plus I had some basic magazine related feeding malfunctions. Based on recommendations from this forum I sent them all off to Beven Grams for tuning and with his tuning and spring/follower kits this gun/magazine combo is now one of the most reliable setups in my safe. On the hard chrome, I would wait to get this done until you have fully broken in the gun and are 100% sure that it is setup the way you want. After hard chrome little things like cutting the grip safety a little higher become harder to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Ditto the waiting on hard chrome. The little bit of wear you'll shoot into your frame rails is exactly what you need as a tolerance, which the [eventual] plating will fill in. Also there are machine cuts & radius work in the back of the gun that make it much kinder on your hands. That's tough to do once it's plated. The grip-safety-area tweaking that Dan Bedell does is the best I've seen - there are photos in the Gallery that will show it. Just be sure you don't remove metal from the thumb-safety or the slide-stop directly over the pin on either part. That makes them 1000x more likely to break. Behind/in front of the pins is fine - customize that all you want. My opinion only - the best/most reliable recoil setup you can use is a steel 1-piece guide rod, one buffer [Ed Brown or EGW], and a 10 to 14-lb conventional recoil spring. Go outside of that and you are gambling to some extent. If you like how the pistol points for you then leave the trigger guard alone - no undercutting, just round the corners slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRW Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Here is a list of parts that have broken on my Edge in the order which they occurred: • extractor • slide stop • recoil master • rear sight hinge pin Regardless, it’s a great pistol and would not hesitate to by another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Also get rid of the narrow cheap safeties & install the ed brown's. ISMI 17 lb. mainspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 By the time you buy the pistol and change all that stuff you could have had Benny build it that way to start with and avoided a bunch of hassle and have a TSS custom pistol.-----Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCK Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 By the time you buy the pistol and change all that stuff you could have had Benny build it that way to start with and avoided a bunch of hassle and have a TSS custom pistol.-----Larry Thats exactly why I odered one of Dan Bedell's. No matter who you have build one, your going to have roughly the same invested in the long run. I guess the few benefits of building up an Edge is.. 1. You learn more about it. 2. You don't plop down all the cash at once. 3. No wait I think no matter what though, I would order it from someone that will give it a reliability check before they send it out so you will get a ready to run gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 yup. life is too short and spare time too precious to go to the range, set up, and have to practice with an unreliable gun. I know Dawson does a reliability check as does Brazos and they still offer them at the best price available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 By the time you buy the pistol and change all that stuff you could have had Benny build it that way to start with and avoided a bunch of hassle and have a TSS custom pistol.-----Larry Larry, I would love to order one but at this point (due to my wife thinking that I have too many guns) in less I can sell one of my open guns, the only way I am getting into a limited gun this season is through a trade. I am trading into an new Edge not buying one. Adam If I were to buy anything it would be a Brazos SC, nothing against Benny, or any of the other smiths, but I have shot a couple of Bob's guns and they are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 just have custom built pistol made for you if your gonna do all that to it. i would ditch the long dust cover and recoil master too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 just have custom built pistol made for you if your gonna do all that to it.i would ditch the long dust cover and recoil master too.. Again, I am trading into one, I am not speinding a dime of my own money, otherwise I would have one built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I have added exactly what you want to your edge to mine.. I have a tungsten guide rod with 12# spring, and i had Ed Brown ambi safety installed. I had the gun chromed after about 10K rounds. STI mags with Dawson base pads (+1) and grams springs. The gun has been 100% reliable. I'd buy another for backup if i could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I think I will also have the frame fluted and the slide lightened. Does the tungsten guide rod make a big difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 The biggest thing I've noticed with the tungsten guide rod was the gun was more stable when shooting on the move. A must-have item for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I think I will also have the frame fluted and the slide lightened. Does the tungsten guide rod make a big difference? Not really. I like the feel of more weight up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSMITH Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) If I was in your position I would try to trade into an Eagle instead of an Edge. I don't like weight out front, or weight period. I want the lightest gun I can get that is durable. If you aren't sure about the weight of an Eagle a tungsten guide rod will have your new Eagle with about the same balance and weight as a stock Edge. Taking weight out of the Edge is a lot harder and more expensive than swapping a guide rod out. The next time you want some more weight out you can lighten the slide on the Eagle, and then look to the frame. Chrome will absolutely screw you if you want to change something on the gun, make darn sure it is exactly the way you want it before chrome, Stripping the plating and then putting it back is expensive and time consuming. Edited February 10, 2006 by HSMITH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I'd try both and see what you like. What may work for me may not work for you ( it is a personal preference thing). . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 I have tried both in the past and I like the long dust cover, weight isnt an issue. I am not a small guy by any means, I'm 225 (and it not fat), so I can take the weight of a 40oz gun. I am really looking for what I need to change and what problems people have had with their factory edge not what combination I should get mine, since I already have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I don';t know of any factory problems with the Edge...and if you already have it, anything else is just personal likes and dislikes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I have tried both in the past and I like the long dust cover, weight isnt an issue. I am not a small guy by any means, I'm 225 (and it not fat), so I can take the weight of a 40oz gun. I am really looking for what I need to change and what problems people have had with their factory edge not what combination I should get mine, since I already have it. Ditto, I like the long dust cover too. I tend to like the heavier gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory_k Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 why lighten the slide and the frame then add a tungsten guide rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 No point in lightening the frame if you're adding a tungsten guide rod... other than cosmetic reasons...... but lightening the slide can reduce the reciprocating mass, make a faster cycling slide, change the feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 I am not doing a major lightening to the frame, just adding some fultes for the looks. The amount of material being removed from the frame is minimal. I am having the slide lightend for performance reasons, lower recriprocationg mass. I am looking at getting it around the magic 12oz mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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