blackdragon Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thats just Eric! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thats just Eric! Ivan Well filling in the circle for C was reportedly a good strategy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I hear yea on the HC, Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Ron, That sucks. I think I know who built your gun. He would be my first choice for an Open gun. There is a local one if 38SC. It is the only gun that I have seen that runs better than a Glock. It's not chromed, fwiw. Let me know if I can help (I have some access to that gun and it's ammo, etc). Sucks to hear your news. Are you still in snowmobile weather, or are you into shooting heavy weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Shouldnt you have the gunsmith fix the darn thing. Any smith that is selling Open guns SHOULD know what loads & mag combinations will work 100%, and should help you with troubleshooting and get you running in quick order. That said there only are about 5 I know of that fit the bill of an open gun specialist. Now I doubt you want to here about my ultra reliable open shorty major 9 that works better than my Glocks, Limited guns or singlestacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 John:I have a ton of ammo if you want me to break your new Brazos Open blaster in for you. No Brazos blaster here. Only a J.L.Hardy Mongoose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 I meant the other John, but I'll shoot your Hardy if you want. I think Flex knows who built the gun and the maker is without a doubt one of the most well respected names in the business. Even though I am experiencing problems, I would recommend the gunsmith without reservation. The hardchomer screwed him over and I am working with the smith to get a workable gun without tossing the upper in the trash and starting all over. In fact, this gunsmith will do anything, including building an entirely new gun to fix the problem. The hell of it is, the malfunction I am experiencing (on an infrequent and intermittent basis) has never happened to the gunsmith. That's what's so frustrating, the gunsmith can't get the gun to puke. So, if you were the gunsmith and the gun ran 100 percent for you with the customer's mags and ammo, what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 So, if you were the gunsmith and the gun ran 100 percent for you with the customer's mags and ammo, what would you do? Without knowing what the intermittent issue is, start tuning (or retuning) or replacing all of the parts that could contribute to the malf. I had an intermittent problem with my limited gun. I sent it down to the smith who couldn't reproduce it. He replaced the part (aftec) and the gun was 100% from then on. He also paid for shipping both ways and turnaround was a weekend. Can't ask for more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I meant the other John, but I'll shoot your Hardy if you want. I think Flex knows who built the gun and the maker is without a doubt one of the most well respected names in the business. Even though I am experiencing problems, I would recommend the gunsmith without reservation. The hardchomer screwed him over and I am working with the smith to get a workable gun without tossing the upper in the trash and starting all over. In fact, this gunsmith will do anything, including building an entirely new gun to fix the problem. The hell of it is, the malfunction I am experiencing (on an infrequent and intermittent basis) has never happened to the gunsmith. That's what's so frustrating, the gunsmith can't get the gun to puke. So, if you were the gunsmith and the gun ran 100 percent for you with the customer's mags and ammo, what would you do? I would do what your GS is apparently doing. Take you at your word and try to fix the dang thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Make sure you are using new brass! Fired brass can make a mess out of the best Open guns! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I meant the other John, but I'll shoot your Hardy if you want. I think Flex knows who built the gun and the maker is without a doubt one of the most well respected names in the business. Even though I am experiencing problems, I would recommend the gunsmith without reservation. The hardchomer screwed him over and I am working with the smith to get a workable gun without tossing the upper in the trash and starting all over. In fact, this gunsmith will do anything, including building an entirely new gun to fix the problem. The hell of it is, the malfunction I am experiencing (on an infrequent and intermittent basis) has never happened to the gunsmith. That's what's so frustrating, the gunsmith can't get the gun to puke. So, if you were the gunsmith and the gun ran 100 percent for you with the customer's mags and ammo, what would you do? Guess what Ron - been there, done that - on both points - a shitty hard chrome job and gun that never ran rights afterward for me! Ran fine for all the guys with gorilla paws! I can't help you on the fix, blew mine up and got a new one, with no hard chrome! And believe me, if anybody even thinks about mentioning that crap to me I go off on 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 + 1 Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I hate it when my open gun works 100% because ... ? it makes me look bad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I hate it when my open gun works 100% because ... ? it makes me look bad ? Thats no Sh&$t! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) I hate it when my open gun works 100% because ... ? it makes me look bad ? If your gun has never barfed, you haven't shot it enough. Edited February 2, 2006 by Ron Ankeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I hate it when my open gun works 100% because ... ? it makes me look bad ? If our gun has never barfed, you haven't shot it enough. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Praying Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Hi Ron Don't let it get you down, just keep working at it and you'll get it fixed. I bought a used 9mm SVI (open type) gun in 2001 and had it rechambered for 38 super. 9mm wasn't major in open at the time. I have shot well over 30,000 rounds in it without 1 unexplained hickup. The only hickups I've had have been broken ejectors (3) or week extractors(2). I case gage all of my ammo, keep it clean and oiled with FP-10. I would bet on it running 5,000 out of 5,000 rounds. (With a good cleaning after every 700 rounds.) This gun never fails me without a good reason. Man this thing will run 99 out of 100 rounds with a broken extractor and I use just about all range brass. I'll go on and on about this gun, so enough about my gun. What is your gun doing? Failure to extract, eject, feed or chamber. You may have a couple of problems if it's doing more than one. Sometimes it's hard to tell in a match, so the next time it does, STOP and see. This will tell the smith what to look for. He has probably told you this already, but sometimes it don't hurt to hear it one more time. Good luck and welcome to THE DARK SIDE. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 That's what's so frustrating, the gunsmith can't get the gun to puke. So, if you were the gunsmith and the gun ran 100 percent for you with the customer's mags and ammo, what would you do? If I were the gunsmith, I would tell you to keep you fingers off the slide. But seroiusly, I had a few issues too, and soon found out that the operator was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmercury2 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 30,000 ROUNDS at least on my open blaster,only probs are related to my reloads or mag springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Some of you guys are a regular riot. Especially those of you who have had malfunctions but go on about your reliable blaster. What the hate rant is about is the difficulty in troubleshooting a finicky gun. The problem isn't my thumb hitting the slide and it isn't the magazines. Brass is new and even the rounds that failed to chamber were gauged before and after, crimp checked with a micrometer, etc. Oh, did I forget to mention the gun doesn't barf until the thermometer dips to freezing? Yes, the ammo makes 170 at that temp, yes the gun was degreased and lubed with light oil, FP10, even 5w synthetic. So far, no one has even hinted at a possible cause that hasn't been considered. That's what's so frustrating. FWIW, I had an open gun once before that started acting weird at 30-40K. The maker (a different guy) couldn't isolate the problem and I know the gun went back and forth between the two of us at least 4 times trying out different ammo, various solutions, etc. The builder finally installed a new tube and went to a cone comp. With the new top end the gun ran perfectly (no ammo changes). To this day the original problem remains a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Limp wristing it when it gets cold? ... a guy from Wyoming, shooting an open gun, hmmm. Do you live near Brokeback Mountain? (sorry a bad joke I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Limp wristing it when it gets cold?... a guy from Wyoming, shooting an open gun, hmmm. Do you live near Brokeback Mountain? (sorry a bad joke I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Man, that was bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Listen jokers, at my age everything gets stiff when it's cold outside so it isn't limp wristing. Am I digging my own grave here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCK Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 30,000 ROUNDS at least on my open blaster,only probs are related to my reloads or mag springs. OK heres the disclaimer...I do not own an open blaster and Im not a smith and I HAVE been called stupid before. Now that we have THAT out of the way. It didnt start until AFTER the CHROME? It ONLY happens when it is below freezing. Heres a theory for you... The chrome obviously used up some of the tolerances when the gun was built, when metals temp drops below freezing, it shrinks. Is it possible that your tolerances are so tight ater the chrome that there isnt enough left when the metal shrinks? By shrinking, Im talking MINISCULE amounts but it does shrink. Maybe try lapping it in a bit more... Might sound stupid but hey, ya just never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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