Ron Ankeny Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 The title says it all. How much do I have to spend for a nuts reliable blaster? Apparantly $3200.00 won't get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 It also sucks that you can spend huge sums on a gun and then have to spend another bucket full of money to get magazines that work 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ38super Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Sorry to hear that Ron! I spent half that for a used one with a holster and 3 mags and it runs perfect. I can feed it super or super comp with no problems. I case gauge my loads and put the ones that don't gauge well in a practice bin and even they run fine. Don't know who built your gun but from what I hear most problems are ammo or mag related and not the gun. Good Luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 I spent half that for a used one with a holster and 3 mags and it runs perfect. That really cheers me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 It probably is really tough to make a 100% reliable open gun...you are trying to hang all sorts of crap off it, red dot sight, big mag well, HUGE/HEAVY magazine, no wonder they barf...they were not designed to operate with a 1.5 lb mag hanging out the bottom...nor were the mags intended to run with 29 rounds in them and a 15 inch spring compressed to 1 inch....I personally don;'t know how they do what they do.. That is why I never had an open blaster built....even the best of them lay down sometimes, and it always is when you need them the most...I am like you...I want it to run 100% of the time...you can beat most of the local people just by having a blaster that will run ALL the time...same is true of Limited but to a lesser degree.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 $3200 should be plenty to net you a working gun, custom built, by a top gunsmith - especially since you already have a frame... IME, there are a couple of things that must be done to the gun to make it work, period. If the gun isn't assembled correctly, it won't work consistently regardless of mags or ammo. For instance, the frame bridge has to be cut *right*, period... That said... it probably wouldn't hurt to look at your mags and ammo, if you haven't done that, yet... If no issues there, think about sending it to a competent smith for a checkup - one of the guys who post here (Bob, Bob, Bennie, Dan, Randy, Jim....), Rusty Kidd, etc. They can at least insure that the gun is working as it should, or can diagnose and suggest a correction. That'd at least be cheaper than building a new gun You certainly can't sell it here on the forum, now.... heh heh... That is why I never had an open blaster built....even the best of them lay down sometimes Dave, I gotta disagree, here. If the gun is built properly, it will run great as long as you feed it good ammo (which is basically true of any gun... give it bad ammo and it no workee). I'm on my third Open gun built by Rusty Kidd right now. None of them has had a jam, and have always worked except when I fed them bad ammo (high primers... natch). I know of several folks who've had similar experiences with other top-notch smiths. Even a top smith can build a lemon occasionally - but they should be able to correct it, as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Merricks Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 That's why I'm going back to limited after the Fla Open. These animals are always changing. It's enough to drive you crazy. But they sure are fun when they are working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Ohhhhh man I know how you feel...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Ron, I am actually scared to get started in Open just because of what you wrote. I have seen soooo few reliable Open guns compared to Production guns, Revolvers and Limited guns. Hell, I have seen Saul Kirsch having 4 major jams at the four longest courses of the Europeans two years ago (cost him about 20 seconds!). Even Eric Grauffel has a jam at every big match. And to these guys money isn't an issue But, that being said, I know a couple of people who have guns that will run and run and run. It can be done Just hang in there and get it fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 hopefully, for $3200, you got it from a smith that'll warranty his product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ38super Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Ron, Just to let you know not all has been 100% but it wasn't the gun. I have been having some mag spring sticking problems lately causing a couple glitches here and there. So I picked up 4 new spring/follower kits and open up my main mags last night. Each spring was an inch or more shorter than the new ones I just opened. While I would clean them I never thought to mess with spring length. So anyway out with the old and in with the new and problem shold now be gone. (I'll find out tonight) But it's not really the springs fault as I have shot on average about 8 matches a month plus the Area 2 Classic with these mages during the past 6 months so they have been used a bunch. And I wasn't trying to make you feel bad because you spent all that money and are having problems. If I had it I would spend the same amount. This is my first 1911 style gun and I'm having a blast and learning about the little things I need to know. Someone should be able to help you make it fly the way it should. Edited January 31, 2006 by AZ38super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I hate to hear that Ron. Mines a Hammer and I spent $2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Heeellllooooo. This is the Hate forum. You aren't supposed to talk about your reliable guns on this thread. This should be all about hating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 D'oh... I missed that. I'll stop talking about reliable Open guns, now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Oooopsss... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 XRe I know what you mean, back when Open meant a .45 with a comp and a guide rod they would run and run...not doubting your word, but I don't know anyone who has not had one lay down mysteriously....and the guys I speak of are very careful with the mags and ammo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Heeellllooooo. This is the Hate forum. You aren't supposed to talk about your reliable guns on this thread. This should be all about hating. Well I guess I won't talk about by Wayne Berquist built Caspian open gun. Neal in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 No pistol is 100%!!!!! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Ivan +1 on that.....IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dunn Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Just thought of an SAT question: Ron Ankeny is to open guns as Eric Warren is to __________? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know! Wash Cloths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 OR? No Congrejo!!! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) Thanks for putting all of this in perspective guys. I love this forum. The gun ran flawlessly before hardchome, but the plater applied the chome with a butter knife, and when it came back 185 pf ammo wouldn't even toss the slide back. The smith has more hours into getting the gun to run after hardchrome than he has in building the gun in the first place. This gun has been a tough nut to crack. FWIW, I have every confidence in my pistolsmith, I just don't have his patience. John: I have a ton of ammo if you want me to break your new Brazos Open blaster in for you. Edited February 1, 2006 by Ron Ankeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hard Chroming looks good!, But I would never do it again!!! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 (edited) Just thought of an SAT question:Ron Ankeny is to open guns as Eric Warren is to __________? I hate standarized test questions. C. adjustable rear sights Edited February 1, 2006 by Middle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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