Fishbreath Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 1/16/2024 at 12:34 PM, MWP said: I’d love to see these companies market to competition shooters. Sponsored shooters, vendor demos etc. I talked to some of the Team Beretta folks at CO Nationals, because they noticed I was shooting my 92X there, and told them to give me a call if Manurhin ever wants to get into the 8-round competition revolver space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Fishbreath said: I talked to some of the Team Beretta folks at CO Nationals, because they noticed I was shooting my 92X there, and told them to give me a call if Manurhin ever wants to get into the 8-round competition revolver space. Perfect. Bring them all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 6 hours ago, Fishbreath said: I talked to some of the Team Beretta folks at CO Nationals, because they noticed I was shooting my 92X there, and told them to give me a call if Manurhin ever wants to get into the 8-round competition revolver space. Did they laugh in your face, or wait until you'd walked away first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 16 hours ago, matteekay said: Did they laugh in your face, or wait until you'd walked away first? The person I'm thinking of wasn't a shooter, but a Beretta administrator of some kind, and I could almost see the "oh yeah, we import that, don't we?" expression when I mentioned Manurhin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 35 minutes ago, Fishbreath said: The person I'm thinking of wasn't a shooter, but a Beretta administrator of some kind, and I could almost see the "oh yeah, we import that, don't we?" expression when I mentioned Manurhin. I shot one at IDPA Nats a few years ago. Nice gun, but same sense from their reps: "Yes, this is absolutely... uh... a gun! That we sell!" I don't see a boutique manufacturer stepping into the 8-shot game when Ruger can't even be bothered to produce more of their version (that already exists (hypothetically)). There's just no market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 22 hours ago, matteekay said: There's just no market. It's small but nonzero, and it's not just competitors—going by production numbers, way north of 90% of Super GP100s never see competition, even though they're ludicrously impractical for anything else. In looking at Gunbroker sales, it appears the .357s are going at an almost reasonable $1400-$1500 lately, and the serial number on one looks up to a 2023 date of manufacture—it looks like they dropped a small batch recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Fishbreath said: It's small but nonzero, and it's not just competitors—going by production numbers, way north of 90% of Super GP100s never see competition, even though they're ludicrously impractical for anything else. In looking at Gunbroker sales, it appears the .357s are going at an almost reasonable $1400-$1500 lately, and the serial number on one looks up to a 2023 date of manufacture—it looks like they dropped a small batch recently. Prior to the new batch they were bringing $2,300 to $2,500. Damm I wish I had sold mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil66 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, revoman said: Prior to the new batch they were bringing $2,300 to $2,500. Damm I wish I had sold mine. RM: I think you are mistaking the 627 in .357 with the 627 in .38 Super. The standard 627-5 is bringing in from $1100 to $1500 the last I looked. 627-4 from $2K up. Haven't looked for a while though. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, gargoil66 said: RM: I think you are mistaking the 627 in .357 with the 627 in .38 Super. The standard 627-5 is bringing in from $1100 to $1500 the last I looked. 627-4 from $2K up. Haven't looked for a while though. GG I thought it was about the Ruger Super Gp100. I have seen the 627 38 Super go from $1,600 to $2,700 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Black Guns Matter !! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil66 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 12 hours ago, revoman said: I thought it was about the Ruger Super Gp100. I have seen the 627 38 Super go from $1,600 to $2,700 though. RM: Got it! Have never seen a Super GP100 for sale anywhere. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/20/2024 at 7:05 AM, gargoil66 said: RM: Got it! Have never seen a Super GP100 for sale anywhere. GG On GunBroker is where I have seen them and in my safe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 are on GB now from $1600 to $2250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil66 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, revoman said: 3 are on GB now from $1600 to $2250. RM: Only three? I think I saw a few more. Nice looking blasters but not for me at that price tag. Not sure what I would be buying and I can imagine trying to get them fixed. Probably have a minimum charge like $500.00 to open and check the cylinder to ensure it is unloaded. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I got lucky and when they came out the first time I got it on a clearance from Bud’s. $950 shipped guess I was in the right place at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I've been a gun nut for 50+ years, bought, sold or traded literally hundreds of firearms, pistols, revolvers, long guns and shotguns. Competed hard for 25 years, autos and revolvers. So I've had my share of playing with just about everything that was out there, and understand the intrigue with odd ball firearms . Which leads me to the question of, what is the real interest of the super GP Ruger? I can't see where it even meets, much less exceeds anything a S&W revolver is capable of? Is it just to have something different than what everyone else is running, or is there a feature or benefit to it over the Smith I'm just not aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Vic said: I've been a gun nut for 50+ years, bought, sold or traded literally hundreds of firearms, pistols, revolvers, long guns and shotguns. Competed hard for 25 years, autos and revolvers. So I've had my share of playing with just about everything that was out there, and understand the intrigue with odd ball firearms . Which leads me to the question of, what is the real interest of the super GP Ruger? I can't see where it even meets, much less exceeds anything a S&W revolver is capable of? Is it just to have something different than what everyone else is running, or is there a feature or benefit to it over the Smith I'm just not aware of? Yes, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoil66 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Vic said: I've been a gun nut for 50+ years, bought, sold or traded literally hundreds of firearms, pistols, revolvers, long guns and shotguns. Competed hard for 25 years, autos and revolvers. So I've had my share of playing with just about everything that was out there, and understand the intrigue with odd ball firearms . Which leads me to the question of, what is the real interest of the super GP Ruger? I can't see where it even meets, much less exceeds anything a S&W revolver is capable of? Is it just to have something different than what everyone else is running, or is there a feature or benefit to it over the Smith I'm just not aware of? Vic: Just that some folks like Ruger handguns. Looks, balance, ergonomics, cost. A hundred different reasons. I owned a Blackhawk at one time. Got rid of it and never looked back. Just didn't care for it. When Bill Ruger got on the magazine restriction bandwagon I stopped considering anything made by Ruger. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) On 1/21/2024 at 3:33 PM, Vic said: Which leads me to the question of, what is the real interest of the super GP Ruger? I can't see where it even meets, much less exceeds anything a S&W revolver is capable of? There are a couple of engineering choices I think are better on Rugers. The cylinder release mechanism is the biggest one (at least once you put a big paddle on it). I had a 929 briefly, and that was far and away the biggest hangup for me. I think the crane retaining pin vs. yoke screw also goes to Team Red. The actual action seems easier to reckon with on a Smith, although Olhasso's Super GPs are comparable to the worked-over Smiths I've pulled the trigger on. (Mine are pretty good, but not quite that good, or at least not yet.) edit: I will say that I bought my first Super GP because I'm an admitted gun hipster and hate to shoot what everyone else is shooting. See also why I don't enjoy Carry Optics very much. Edited January 23 by Fishbreath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyd Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Some people just like Rugers, your mileage may very. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 hours ago, dannyd said: Some people just like Rugers, your mileage may very. What? No SRH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testosterone Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/15/2024 at 2:12 PM, MWP said: I’ve shot a few. You aren’t missing anything. We would see more if they were priced competitively with the Smith and Ruger offerings, but I don’t think anyone would be replacing the current popular guns with one. I handled one this week for first time, they are undeniably nice, but not 6000 nice. I can get 2 929's with full action jobs and a pile of moonclips and accessories from Eli for that much... If they were 1500 retail you would see more of them irl for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Smith & Wesson has all kinds of 8 shooters, and can have a way better double action trigger pull than Korth or Manhurin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 This topic harkens me back to a high school boonie party, listening to a bunch of pot smokers deep in serious conversation about whether or not a coke can is really red, or we just think it's red. At this particular time in revolver sport shooting, there is the Smith and Wesson revolver..... then there's everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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