Jaxshooter Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I am considering putting an Aim Point on my SV Open gun. I am tired of loosing the dot in the bright sun. Yes I have a shade on the module and I still have a problem losing it. What is your opinion, pro's/con's Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 The Aimpoint will be heavier than the C-More, you will notice this mostly when doing reloads as the gun tips over onto it's side. The Aimpoints are certainly well made and have a very bright dot. The older XD scopes were a tad lighter than the latest ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Jaxshooter, Stay with the C-more! They all do that in the sun!!! If thats what you are used to, Use it! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Try a bigger dot or replace the one you have. The dot modules tend to fade over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdragon Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Bob, You are correct ! As usual! Ivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I've got Open guns with Aimpoints and C-mores. Neither will hold you back-- Grauffel won world championships with Aimpoints, and Saul Kirsch and that TGO guy do ok with them too. I'm not sure why tubes aren't as popular except they don't look as cool and weigh somewhat more. Tubes have some advantages in indexing and you can get the dot closer to the bore line which makes zeroing easier, but you have to put up with a more cluttered view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 +1 fwiw, i've shot the pdp3 tasco mounted way back on the old Dawson mount, and now an aimpoint mounted way forward on a springfield mount. the clutter with the shorter aimpoint and the forward position is much less - not bad at all in terms of what your non-shooting eye sees. if the only thing you don't like about the c-more is the dim dot, i'd just buy new modules every year or 2 and make sure they're at least 6moa. 8moa shows up better still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 (edited) C-More. Call Chuck at Shooters Connection; he will get you set up. I'm with Eric on the six or eight minute dot. FM Edited December 31, 2005 by Front Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 if the only thing you don't like about the c-more is the dim dot, i'd just buy new modules every year or 2 and make sure they're at least 6moa. 8moa shows up better still. +1 I'm using a 12moa and I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Capizzo Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 If an Aimpoint seems right to you, don't let "nobody else here does it" stop you from using it. I noticed on Saul's 2003 Open Super Squad video about half the squad was using an Aimpoint. Saul, Rob, Angus, Eric, Henning, maybe a few more I've forgotten. Apparently if you're not on the Super Squad, it won't be because of which scope you like. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 +1 I'm using a 12moa and I really like it. Single Stack, I used to like 12 MOA and larger dots on Tasco PDP3's They were perfect for paper at 50 yards; I should try a huge dot on my CMORE. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino_aki Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I've had two Aimpoints lose their dots, ditto one Docter, all my friends use C-More's, the problem they have is the body cracking..., the FirePoints I tried couldn't hold zero, the PDP5 (42mm) I've got on the old Open gun may be on the verge of breaking too.... I went back to iron sights...JP Double Rings I don't know really what this has to do with your original question, but I'm sort of on the "I give up" with red dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipscbob Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I have found Aimpoints to be the most robust solution out there. They also have zero parallax and can be mounted very low to the bore. Try the 1911 Weigand mount available on their website for $19.95. One of the lowest double sided mounts available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hostetter Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I prefer the Aimpoints.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike g Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Another 2 cents worth??? "OLD" shooter, I have had C-More's since they were first hand built. Tascos etc...too, (I have a PD-3 on a "old" P-9 open gun). I never liked the "tube". I'm able to find the "dot" much easier with the C-More. Our shooting bays face the South ... always looking into the sun. It's nice too be able to change modules if you wish/want. Add up all the GM's who have to BUY their equipment...probably LOTS more C-More's than Aimpoints???? Plus service is excellent if needed! mike g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I have had the worst luck with Aimpoints All my Aimpoints except one have been back to Sweden to have the switches replaced. Including the brand new one I loaned a friend for Ecuador. Had less than 1000 rounds before the switch went bad in the middle of the World Shoot. The ones that I have are all Comp XD's but not the Comp 2(?) version that is current now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 (edited) This is my observations part of learned by teaching shotgun, 'the eye workings do cross over to handgun. whar the eye is at = on the target,= or on the gun/ on the sight. like when you look at your hood ornament on your car as compared to looking/ having your eyes five cars ahead. With a tub sight many shooters I observe have their eyes in the tub more than on the target. and on a long transition to the next target you can watch them with theri eyes staying 'in the tub of the sight. With an open dot like a Cmore or a Panorama the shooters eyes can get off the screan/tub to look ahead to the next target eazyer. it is like 'looking at the dot' over /instead of looking at the target, = your eys have to 'let go' to get to the next target fast. a tub is not as eazy for that as an open sight Brian's teachings from 15 years ago pointed that out very good. = the eyes move first I think an open sight =like the Cmore, 'lets' that happen eazyer. I think you could hold up an empty tub from paper towles and see what i mean. You would never atempt to look through the long toub and move to diferent targets, but with a tub sight many do it in spite of them selfs. if you watch the average shooter the gun and the eyes move at the same speed. being abell to tell what another shooters eyes are seeing is a ?? learned / intuataive thing. I don't know how I learned to do it. Edited January 1, 2006 by AlamoShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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