SufferInSilence Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 @shred @NorthwestGuy Yeah I ordered the Atlas mount. Going to throw a spare Romeo Pro I have laying around. Bring the gun into the 2020s ya know!? So many rookies in the game these days, when I show up with a side mounted C-more dudes are like whoa… what the hell is that! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthwestGuy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Yes, I loved the large glass on the C-More, but sideways always felt and looked weird, plus adjustments were not simple. It did the job of lowering the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 hours ago, NorthwestGuy said: Yes, I loved the large glass on the C-More, but sideways always felt and looked weird, plus adjustments were not simple. It did the job of lowering the window. @NorthwestGuy yeah I’m gonna miss that nice low height over bore action of the side mount. My Cmore even had the side flat topped to be a smidge lower. But yeah time to move on. I’ll be posting the aluminum Cmore on market place soon if anyone is interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynes_world_45 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 8:18 PM, SufferInSilence said: @shred all good there. The c more is aluminum. I’ve definitely broken a plastic one before. learned that lesson and only deal with aluminum now. This!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Eh, I broke an aluminum one too, although overall the big C-mores (even plastic) have better longevity than most small dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 @shred I’ve sent two plastics back to them over the years and they completely rebuilt them for pennies. They have great customer support/service. I have however banged through two Romeo pros in 2 years shooting spicy minor on a P320… (shattered glass and emitter burning out) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 Well… my dang Atlas mount came in today and it’s no good!! - The mounting holes in my frame are bigger than the Atlas screws. *and* - Even though the Delta Point Pro and Romeo 1 Pro are “supposed” to share the same footprint, it’s not a match on this mount. - And I’d have to switch back to a Nitro Fin vs the Atlas Thumb Rest for even the correct mount to work. (The lesser issues cause I secretly like the nitro fin more). At this point I’d just rather put the Cmore back on if I could find the right mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 From the picture on the previous page, I am assuming that your old mount was either the Quinn 3 or the later DAA version of that mount. The default screw was M4 which is a larger screw than the US standard 5-40(?) and also the counter sink is 90 degrees vs the 82 (?) degree on the ANSI part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 @ChuckS yeah idk. Here’s a close up pic of the old mount. At this point, if anyone has one to part with I’d just go that route. But you’re right, it looks like M4s vs whatever everyone else seems to be using. I don’t suppose there’s anything wrong with widening the smaller holes on a newer style mount and still using the M4s and red locktite that sucker into the next decade…? otherwise it would seem like my other option is just to scrap the frame and start with a new one. (Less optimal for a division I never really shoot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 @ChuckS or would this be a compatible match ti the Quin? https://www.doublealpha.biz/double-alpha-c-more-mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 4 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: @ChuckS yeah idk. Here’s a close up pic of the old mount. At this point, if anyone has one to part with I’d just go that route. But you’re right, it looks like M4s vs whatever everyone else seems to be using. I don’t suppose there’s anything wrong with widening the smaller holes on a newer style mount and still using the M4s and red locktite that sucker into the next decade…? otherwise it would seem like my other option is just to scrap the frame and start with a new one. (Less optimal for a division I never really shoot). It would probably be good if you could get someone to put a 90 degree countersink as well as opening the holes. That way the screws would seat properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 3 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: @ChuckS or would this be a compatible match ti the Quin? https://www.doublealpha.biz/double-alpha-c-more-mount No clue. Send a email to Saul and ask him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I've modified stripped out frame holes & mounts from #6 to M4 before, so it would work, although ideally you'd want to fix the countersink too as mentioned (assuming you have a way to deal with the footprint). The next imperial size up is #8 if you wanted to convert from metric, but I don't like that option as much as keeping the M4s if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 @shred A buddy of mine at the Sunday match just happened to have a spare delta point pro in his car. He let me take it. So I put the atlas on the drill press and opened the holes up to take the #8s. Bought new #8 screws and cut them to size. I didn’t mess with the counter sink because with five 8s holding it in place with red locktite, it seems pretty locked in. Sighted in this morning and ran a few stages. Runs great! The DPP he gave me is a 7.5 yellow triangle so… that’s gonna take some getting used to. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Definitely a bit more modernized now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 2 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: @shred A buddy of mine at the Sunday match just happened to have a spare delta point pro in his car. He let me take it. So I put the atlas on the drill press and opened the holes up to take the #8s. Bought new #8 screws and cut them to size. I didn’t mess with the counter sink because with five 8s holding it in place with red locktite, it seems pretty locked in. Sighted in this morning and ran a few stages. Runs great! The DPP he gave me is a 7.5 yellow triangle so… that’s gonna take some getting used to. Haha. Did you retap the frame holes to #8-32 (I'd guess.. maybe -38 or -40) or were they that already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 @shred it was already 8-32 from back when the DAA/Quin mount was used. I guess that was the spec back then. Now nobody is using 8-32. So I had to widen the mount and cut some stainless 8-32 bolts from Lowe’s to work without buying a new frame and starting over. *NOTE* the old style STI frames are more narrow. The Atlas had an option for a shim that accounts for that difference. All in all, $90 to fix the issue (and someone bought the Cmore for $150) ain’t bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 And as some may have noticed, I needed to switch the thumb rest back to the Nitro Fin. The Atlas thumb rest had too large of a shield to work with the mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 21 hours ago, SufferInSilence said: @shred it was already 8-32 from back when the DAA/Quin mount was used. I guess that was the spec back then. Now nobody is using 8-32. So I had to widen the mount and cut some stainless 8-32 bolts from Lowe’s to work without buying a new frame and starting over. *NOTE* the old style STI frames are more narrow. The Atlas had an option for a shim that accounts for that difference. STI sold frames in narrow (regular) and wide, and you could get either in long or short, so lots of variations out there. Sometimes #8 is what you'd retap to if you had stripped threads on #6-32 or #6-40 holes, easier then welding up anyway. Cutting down flat head cap screws to fit and not jam the slide is all part of the fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Also check that the bullets are not hitting the comp, EGW makes a great reamer to keep the baffle holes clean. As mention earlier, your bullets will deposit lead in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 So, I got everything situated with this gun, (new mount, new dot). Accuracy is STILL complete trash!! Like… (15 yards, from a bench, using bean bags) - Factory training ammo is shifty and inconsistent. - Speer Gold Dot was much better but that’s not saying much for 15y off a bench and bag. - My 172pf reloads seemed to exaggerate the inaccuracies a lot more. Anyone think the barrel may be shot out too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Regardless I’d like to swap the barrel. I’d like to use the same comp but im not bound to that. Anyone know what barrel I need for this thing? It looks like an old cone style which I don’t think is around anymore. It measured 4 3/4 from the chamber hood to the end of the threads inside the comp. anyone know which barrel and/or comp I need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I don't think the barrel is shot out if you're getting a decent group at 15 yards with the Speer ammo. Check your crimp on your reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefVanHauwe Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Are you shooting supported to eliminate shooter's errors as much as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SufferInSilence Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, StefVanHauwe said: Are you shooting supported to eliminate shooter's errors as much as possible? Yeah. Off some tear bags too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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