HighSpeedFocusedFailure Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I’m looking to get some better footwear. My local ranges are desert, rocky, loose and sneaks are terrible in them. Anyone here ever try out the NIKE trail running line of shoes? I need something with lots of pad to it and they seem like they might be pretty solid. Also feel free to throw a rec for a solid non-cleat shoe for desert if you have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I just bought a pair of these that I’ll be trying out Saturday. I have high hopes. https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/product/speedcross-6-lg9212.html?CMPID=ps|sb|google|SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.|Speedcross+6|salomon+speedcross+6|615998721802&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_content=aa136914184061-cc615998721802&utm_keyword=salomon+speedcross+6&utm_campaign=SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_NXVtr6A_wIVlDatBh0z-A3zEAAYASAAEgKS2PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#color=69400 similar terrain, high desert sand/rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 10 hours ago, ColoradoNick said: I just bought a pair of these that I’ll be trying out Saturday. I have high hopes. https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/product/speedcross-6-lg9212.html?CMPID=ps|sb|google|SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.|Speedcross+6|salomon+speedcross+6|615998721802&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_content=aa136914184061-cc615998721802&utm_keyword=salomon+speedcross+6&utm_campaign=SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_NXVtr6A_wIVlDatBh0z-A3zEAAYASAAEgKS2PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#color=69400 similar terrain, high desert sand/rock. Those look interesting, too bad they don’t come in wide sizes. Keep us posted on how they perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighSpeedFocusedFailure Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 11 hours ago, ColoradoNick said: I just bought a pair of these that I’ll be trying out Saturday. I have high hopes. https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/product/speedcross-6-lg9212.html?CMPID=ps|sb|google|SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.|Speedcross+6|salomon+speedcross+6|615998721802&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paidsearch&utm_content=aa136914184061-cc615998721802&utm_keyword=salomon+speedcross+6&utm_campaign=SLM_ProductsShoe-ONG-ECM-USA_SEA_B_LW_BRM.&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_NXVtr6A_wIVlDatBh0z-A3zEAAYASAAEgKS2PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#color=69400 similar terrain, high desert sand/rock. How’s the padding? Most of the Salomon I see at the range look really really flat and uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighSpeedFocusedFailure Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 I came across a pair of Nike Pegasus Trail 3 at a local store for 50$. Can’t pass that up. These shoes aren’t as aggro on the bottom as I would like but I was able to try a bunch on and figure out my sizing for Nike, they run small if anyone was wondering. Now that I have sizing figured out I may try the Zegama trail shoe. Looks pretty grippy and is supposed to be well padded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/19/2023 at 9:04 AM, HighSpeedFocusedFailure said: How’s the padding? Most of the Salomon I see at the range look really really flat and uncomfortable. I haven’t gotten a chance to wear them in a match yet. Padding seems ample to me, they are very light but narrow and I have normal width feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Too much padding can also be detrimental. Depending on where it is you lose feel of the terrain and it actually takes more energy to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC3D Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On 5/18/2023 at 10:33 PM, HighSpeedFocusedFailure said: Also feel free to throw a rec for a solid non-cleat shoe for desert if you have one. Another vote for the salamanders here. I have the speedcross 4's and absolutely love them. I think they're on like version 6 but in all honestly I have no idea what the different generation differences are. https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/product/speedcross-6-wide-lg9372.html#color=73525 On 5/19/2023 at 10:50 AM, Cuz said: Those look interesting, too bad they don’t come in wide sizes. Keep us posted on how they perform. Link above has the wide sizes! On 5/19/2023 at 11:04 AM, HighSpeedFocusedFailure said: How’s the padding? Most of the Salomon I see at the range look really really flat and uncomfortable. Not as comfortable as my everyday sneakers but they do what they're designed for very well. Mine are a half size too small for me and I don't even notice. They are a very comfortable performance shoe- but more importantly extremely confidence inspiring when moving quick. I'll say this, if you look around at what your competitors are wearing- if they're wearing any kind of performance shoe for uspsa, it will almost always be Solomons. They're well worth the price and as popular as they are in this sport for a good reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC3D Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Farmer said: Too much padding can also be detrimental. Depending on where it is you lose feel of the terrain and it actually takes more energy to move. 100% At the end of the day the shoe you're looking for is another tool/ piece of equipment, the performance is more important than the comfort imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrcnky Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I am really loving the Nike Pegasus 4 goretex. Feels like a running shoe with enough traction for grass, gravel, mud. I've been super impressed. I have tried Salmon and every other brand, but they all just feel too bulky and end of day my legs ache. Plus, the goretex on the Nike's actually shed water. All other goretex running/niking shoes I've had just keep the water and weigh the show down. They also ALL end up smelling like mildew way too fast vs these Nike's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 I have wide Speedcross 6 and like them. The Supercross I don't think has wide, but the regular sizes are wider than the regular speedcross across the toes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, shred said: FWIW, the Speedcross 6 are available in Wide. Good to know! I got mine on Amazon and have only worn them once. I’ll see if I can swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 FYI they’re on sale at REI right now for $104.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighSpeedFocusedFailure Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, ColoradoNick said: Good to know! I got mine on Amazon and have only worn them once. I’ll see if I can swap Yeah I’d have to do wide for sure. Tried out the Pegasus trail 3 today just messin with the kiddos at the park, very grippy so far. Maybe match next weekend to give them the real trial. The Nike Zegama is the one I’m really interested in though. Almost as aggressive on the bottoms as the Salomon but I haven’t had the chance to compare the two in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 19 hours ago, shred said: I have wide Speedcross 6 and like them. The Supercross I don't think has wide, but the regular sizes are wider than the regular speedcross across the toes. Question how wide are they, I wear 4e and most wide shoes aren’t wide enough i pretty much settled on ASICS shoes but look longingly at the speedcross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I don't know for sure. Best bet would be to try to find somewhere with the wide speedcross and try them. They aren't crazy wide, but way better for me than the regular, even one size up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I recently picked up a pair of these for IPSC good fit, the speedcross type are usually too narrow for me but these fit fine so far good for our dirt range surfaces and recently autumn moving into winter wetter surfaces. https://www.amazon.com/Salomon-Mens-Raise-Climbing-Shoe/dp/B09846G6QS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I've been getting the Inov-8 Mudclaw and X-Talon. They are wider than Salomon for sure, but I do have to go up one size. The lugs are 8mm, actually longer than the Speedcross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I like the mudclaw for soft ground but the pair I have (many years old by now) are thin with little padding so walking around a hard rocky range hurts by the end of the day. Are the X-Talon any better in that regard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I ended up on Merrell Nova 3's for the same reasons - I need a wide shoe and PA is very rocky. I tried Salomons, Rockport, and Columbia hikers and my feet would be killing me after every match. Since I switched the difference is dramatic, very happy with the Merrell trail runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighSpeedFocusedFailure Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 12 hours ago, shred said: I like the mudclaw for soft ground but the pair I have (many years old by now) are thin with little padding so walking around a hard rocky range hurts by the end of the day. Are the X-Talon any better in that regard? This is exactly my concern. One of my nearby clubs is in the absolute most rocky location ever. It’s like refuse oversized fill, unscreeded. You can easily find 4” rock, everywhere. It’s hard pack under loose rock. Cleats bite in but as soon as you get through the loose stuff on top it’s like running on wood with cleats… it sucks. A thin shoe would be murder on my feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 23 hours ago, shred said: I like the mudclaw for soft ground but the pair I have (many years old by now) are thin with little padding so walking around a hard rocky range hurts by the end of the day. Are the X-Talon any better in that regard? A little. They have a rock guard, but I do feel the gravel. Most of my local clubs are gravel bays, and I'm always looking for a better shoe to suit the ranges I shoot at. I do want to look at the Merrell Nova high top. I'd really like to find a high top for ankle support, but super lightweight. The Merrell Moab was too heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 I got the speed cross 6's today in my normal size but wide and they fit perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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