konkapot Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Are weapon mounted lights legal in IDPA? The only mention I see in the rulebook is on Pg 15, which doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racknrider Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 8 hours ago, racknrider said: Yes But how to know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I've seen plenty of people running them in matches. On Glocks mainly....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 My reading of it is yes, I put one on my gun and will be running it at level 3 this weekend with low light stages. So, I guess I'll find out if I'm the only one who reads it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 WMLs are permitted under the most recent rules. In contrast to USPSA however, they have a minimum LEM (sorry is that what its called?) requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 I've honestly checked the rulebook but cannot find it. The one "thought" I had was that it might not fit the box, but was looking for a rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, konkapot said: I've honestly checked the rulebook but cannot find it. The one "thought" I had was that it might not fit the box, but was looking for a rule It's not really spelled out. It says something like "must be suitable for carry" where the old rules said something like "must be hand held". I look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, konkapot said: I've honestly checked the rulebook but cannot find it. The one "thought" I had was that it might not fit the box, but was looking for a rule Look at 3.10.1.3 Dropping a flashlight does not incur a penalty...This rule does not exempt dropped firearms. Why would that bit at the end exist if we couldn't have a light on the firearm? 8.9.4.1 May not be attached to the shooters head, hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion. Doesn't say may not be attached to firearm 8.9.4.2 Suitable for EDC minimum lumens of 60. A WML fits all of these rules. So while it's not specifically saying you can use a WML I think they're trying to imply that you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 23 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Look at 3.10.1.3 Dropping a flashlight does not incur a penalty...This rule does not exempt dropped firearms. Why would that bit at the end exist if we couldn't have a light on the firearm? 8.9.4.1 May not be attached to the shooters head, hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion. Doesn't say may not be attached to firearm 8.9.4.2 Suitable for EDC minimum lumens of 60. A WML fits all of these rules. So while it's not specifically saying you can use a WML I think they're trying to imply that you can. That seems to be how it is being interpreted. I guess it would have been too easy for them to just say "WML are legal" or words to that effect. They seem to insist on doing things the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 You won't find specific verbiage allowing WML's. However, there's no language that disallows them (there used to be and it was removed in the most recent rulebook). Also, this is me at Nationals: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iboomer Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2017 Rules 8.8.4 Flashlights Only hand held lights may be used in IDPA competition. For Physically Disabled shooters, refer to Physically Disabled Shooters Section. Lights may not be attached to the shooter’s hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion. Rings or straps that go around any part of the shooter’s body (finger, palm, wrist, etc.) are not allowed. Lanyards may be present, but may not be used. Police and military personnel using the Duty Gear Exemption with a firearm mounted light may not activate the mounted light, and are otherwise subject to the same hand held flashlight usage rules as other competitors. See rule 3.10. 2022 Rules 8.9.4 Flashlights 8.9.4.1 Flashlights may be used in IDPA competition. Lights may not be attached to the shooter’s head, hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion, prior to the start signal. The only exception to this is of the flashlight is provided for the stage. 8.9.4.2 The flashlight must be suitable for EDC or tactical duty use with appropriate illumination of minimum 60 lumens. 8.9.4.3 Physically Disabled shooters please refer to Physically Disabled Shooters Section. 2022 Rulebook Update Deck - Slide 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, iboomer said: 2017 Rules 8.8.4 Flashlights Only hand held lights may be used in IDPA competition. For Physically Disabled shooters, refer to Physically Disabled Shooters Section. Lights may not be attached to the shooter’s hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion. Rings or straps that go around any part of the shooter’s body (finger, palm, wrist, etc.) are not allowed. Lanyards may be present, but may not be used. Police and military personnel using the Duty Gear Exemption with a firearm mounted light may not activate the mounted light, and are otherwise subject to the same hand held flashlight usage rules as other competitors. See rule 3.10. 2022 Rules 8.9.4 Flashlights 8.9.4.1 Flashlights may be used in IDPA competition. Lights may not be attached to the shooter’s head, hand, wrist, or arm in any fashion, prior to the start signal. The only exception to this is of the flashlight is provided for the stage. 8.9.4.2 The flashlight must be suitable for EDC or tactical duty use with appropriate illumination of minimum 60 lumens. 8.9.4.3 Physically Disabled shooters please refer to Physically Disabled Shooters Section. 2022 Rulebook Update Deck - Slide 24 LOL can IDPA be more incompetent at writing rulebooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Oh I think that inferences and insinuations are the best way to do rulebooks. Probably applicable to contracts as well. Just hope that people can read between the lines and pick up on the "intent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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