Jim Watson Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) I had just gotten settled with the Gallant 200 gr Hi Tek coated roundnose when Covid struck and they quit making anything but 230s. Does anybody else have that mold? I like the ballistics of the 200 gr. .45 and not all guns will feed SWCs. At present I am loading similar plated Xtremes at higher price and requiring extra attention. Edited October 31, 2021 by Jim Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Neill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Not all SWC's are created equal. However, it is my understanding that the H&H 68 SWC was designed to match the contact points of a 230gr RN. It has proven very reliable over the years. If a gun will not reliably feed a properly loaded H&G 68 SWC, I would consider having the gun fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 Thank you. My main gun for this load has been through the builder's shop and two others without a lot of improvement. It still wants roundnose. I am currently "tuning" magazines to get it back to normal function even with those. I fear a fix would involve a new barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Neill Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Something of an oddball gun it would seem. I have both custom and stock guns, ands they all feed the H&G 68. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 how about this one? https://www.snscasting.com/45-acp-200-grain-round-nose-red-coated-1000ct/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Please don't overlook our Forum Dealer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AHI said: how about this one? https://www.snscasting.com/45-acp-200-grain-round-nose-red-coated-1000ct/ I have tried that pattern of bullet from Billy Bullets (nastiest coating I have seen short of Kal Gard) and BBI. Not a particularly good feeder in my finicky gun due to pointy nose and SWC type shoulder. 15 minutes ago, ChuckS said: Please don't overlook our Forum Dealer! I wouldn't if he made a 200 gr RN. His 230 RN NLG looks like the same nose profile, that might have to be my fallback. I guess I could retire the gun or sell it to somebody willing to mess with it. I am at present tinkering with gun and magazines. PS. I have tried the 200 gr RNFP really meant for CAS lever actions and it is fairly good with the OAL just right. PPS. I have some regular 230 RN that seem a bit blunt for this gun, I'll try some with tinkered magazines. . Edited October 31, 2021 by Jim Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Don’t know if the small shoulder would present a problem or not but here’s some to look at. https://precisionbullets.com/product/45-200-rnf/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 A couple possibilities: https://www.ibejiheads.com/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=41&osCsid=7baf0539d9042abaad4c88bb22ad3927 https://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=232&category=20&secondary=13&keywords= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) The Precision is a possible, starting to get some real options. The ibeji LOOKS the same as the Gallant, thanks. I shot some of the Missouri bullets when they first came out. I recall they fed ok but they took a complete reset of all dies, lots more flare for the flat base and could not even use my usual Hornady Microjust. PS I ordered some 200 gr bullets to try in my finicky gun. Precision said 6 weeks on the www but 10 weeks on the order confirmation email. I will probably forget it by then and it will be a surprise birthday present. But ibej said 3 to 5 DAYS. Wow. Edited November 2, 2021 by Jim Watson Ordered bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost21 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Missouri 200 gr RNFP This is the bullet I shoot, besides their semi was cutter ! I have neve had a problem with these or the semi wad cutters feeding! IDP #4-XD - Hi-Tek.452 Diameter.45 ACP200 Grain RNFPBrinell 18Bullet OAL .544 +/-For Major Power FactorHi-Tek 2-Extreme CoatingPrice per box of 500Price: $51.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 IBEJ bullets came in, about three weeks. Look, load, shoot well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 Got in the Precision Bullets, not as long delivery as warned, but not real fast. They also look, load, and shoot well. But after untold tinkering with bullets and magazine lips, I think I have cleared up my feeding problems, I replaced the magazine springs and operation is much smoother. At present prices I was only willing to shoot one load of 10+1 rounds per re-sprung magazine, which all fed, fired, and functioned with mixed loads of Xtreme, Precision, and IBJEheads. They will get the acid test at next week's match. Oh, by the way, is there anything productive to do with squashed magazine and recoil springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Use the magazine springs on your shelves like Wal-Mart to keep moving your reloading products forward. Seriously, if they are shot, either toss them or mark them so they don’t find their way back in your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igloodude Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 10/31/2021 at 12:54 AM, Guy Neill said: Not all SWC's are created equal. However, it is my understanding that the H&H 68 SWC was designed to match the contact points of a 230gr RN. It has proven very reliable over the years. If a gun will not reliably feed a properly loaded H&G 68 SWC, I would consider having the gun fixed. Funny, in a Glock thread I recently started here with questions about a Model 21 or 41, I got three posts specifically and a few more generally stating that SWCs either wouldn't work or would barely work. I don't know if they were referring to H&G68 200gr or not. They got somewhat lost among the posts telling me to just go 9mm though, despite my repeated explanations of why I was sticking with 45ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Igloodude said: Funny, in a Glock thread I recently started here with questions about a Model 21 or 41, I got three posts specifically and a few more generally stating that SWCs either wouldn't work or would barely work. I don't know if they were referring to H&G68 200gr or not. They got somewhat lost among the posts telling me to just go 9mm though, despite my repeated explanations of why I was sticking with 45ACP. Go back and read I gave you the answer . SWC work just fine. H&G 68 style work. My standard Bullseye ammo for my custom 1911. Works fine. All this in a Glock 41. Also worked in a 21 that I had years ago. Know several other people with Glocks . No issues. I also said for you the 45acp was a very good option. Over all length is the key. Most people who have issues . Don't understand this. Edited January 18, 2022 by AHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) The Glocks that have issues. Are the compact ones . Not full size. Some times I come across a little harsh. This is one of those times. Edited January 18, 2022 by AHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igloodude Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 9 hours ago, AHI said: The Glocks that have issues. Are the compact ones . Not full size. Some times I come across a little harsh. This is one of those times. Oh, no worries, you were fine, I appreciated your helpful responses in that thread. It was a few others in that thread that were dismissive of my original question, unrelated to SWC ammo in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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