ysrracer Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I've switched over to my 929 for a while. I'm using .035 moon clips with Win 9mm brass. Most of the rounds will spin in the moon clip. And the clip will fall right into the cylinder. However sometimes I get a really tight round, and the loaded moon won't drop in. Is that what you guys that are using Win brass in your 929 are seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvshooter Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 My win brass is loose in the .35s. What moons are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) On 5/8/2021 at 9:17 PM, vvshooter said: My win brass is loose in the .35s. What moons are you using? Thanks, TK moon clips. .040 was too tight. What brand are you using? Edited May 10, 2021 by ysrracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvshooter Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I use ranch moons with Winchester and federal brass with extreme. 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Yes! I started using WIN brass from the start when I got my 929 as I had a decent amount of it once fired. Using .035" clips I found that if I had problems with a full clip dropping in the cylinder there was usually a round that didn't spin in the clip. Not sure if it is an out of spec piece of brass or the extractor groove was damaged when it was fired (in an autoloader) the first time? I now have the habit if checking for spin when I load my clips and just make sure I discard the specific case after firing. That way I cull out the bad brass and the issue doesn't happen much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 WIN and TK .04 don’t get along. You could mix FED with the WIN or just go all in with Blazer and never have issues again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Intel6 said: Yes! I started using WIN brass from the start when I got my 929 as I had a decent amount of it once fired. Using .035" clips I found that if I had problems with a full clip dropping in the cylinder there was usually a round that didn't spin in the clip. Not sure if it is an out of spec piece of brass or the extractor groove was damaged when it was fired (in an autoloader) the first time? I now have the habit if checking for spin when I load my clips and just make sure I discard the specific case after firing. That way I cull out the bad brass and the issue doesn't happen much anymore. Especially if one is using range 9mm brass! You can run into damaged rims and swollen cases, due to 9mm major. If I was using a 929 I'd definitely get virgin brass of a brand that'd work best and use it "only" in matches. Range brass from "my" 9mm's would be used for practice and I've gotten into the habit of never retrieving 9mm brass from a match. But I tend to be OCD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Probably OCD. The first batch of Blazer I loaded 10 times. Probably ~7000pcs. Some was from an indoor range where it’s mostly new shooters with new brass but early on I was getting whatever I could get my hands on. Including some from a LIII. So some were maybe 15+ loadings. I started to get *some* cracked rounds but maybe 1 or 2 per 1000 and I could shoot those anyway in practice. Admittedly I have a roll sizer. I also run brass through an automated 650 to deprime and size. If there was rim damage it would catch in the feed to station one and get crunched. At least I think that was why, still very very minimal. Most rim damage if it happens comes from when it’s loaded on the moon clip. It can be cut out with an exacto knife if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missed it by that much Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Ranch products moonclips and winchester brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeyScuba said: Probably OCD. The first batch of Blazer I loaded 10 times. Probably ~7000pcs. Some was from an indoor range where it’s mostly new shooters with new brass but early on I was getting whatever I could get my hands on. Including some from a LIII. So some were maybe 15+ loadings. I started to get *some* cracked rounds but maybe 1 or 2 per 1000 and I could shoot those anyway in practice. Admittedly I have a roll sizer. I also run brass through an automated 650 to deprime and size. If there was rim damage it would catch in the feed to station one and get crunched. At least I think that was why, still very very minimal. Most rim damage if it happens comes from when it’s loaded on the moon clip. It can be cut out with an exacto knife if need be. Roll sizer with 9mm range brass of unknown origin, or if one has a 9 major, would solve a lot of issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Ok, I did a little experimenting. Multi time fired (in an auto pistol) Winchester brass is just too tight in my .035 TK moon clips. On the other hand, Federal multi time fired (in an auto pistol) brass seems to work better for me. I'm going to load up a few rounds, and check it out. But so far it looks promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 For TK nickel WIN is unusable then brass WIN. FED and Blazer are in the Goldilocks zone RP and S&B are super loose. I’ve had some fall off the moons, especially RP. For somewhat useless info, RP uses some nasty priming compound. I wet tumble deprimed brass with pins. RP pockets never get as clean as all other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhic3gun Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just put a medium cratex cylinder on your dremel and go to town. A few passes on the offending clips will fix them. Maybe. :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, pyrrhic3gun said: Just put a medium cratex cylinder on your dremel and go to town. A few passes on the offending clips will fix them. Maybe. :^) Ha ha, you funny guy Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 I ordered some Ranch Products moon clips. I'll let you guys know how they work out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerMcFadden Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Sounds like you have a solution but I run DAA .37s with WIN brass. Occasionally I’ll have a round that causes the whole moon to fail the gauge. When that happens I remove the offending round and throw it in a practice pile and throw out the brass when used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Freeman Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 .035 moon clips and WCC/Win brass is just fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Tom Freeman said: .035 moon clips and WCC/Win brass is just fine for me. What brand clips are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 6:55 PM, ysrracer said: Ok, I did a little experimenting. Multi time fired (in an auto pistol) Winchester brass is just too tight in my .035 TK moon clips. On the other hand, Federal multi time fired (in an auto pistol) brass seems to work better for me. I'm going to load up a few rounds, and check it out. But so far it looks promising. I loaded up some roll sized Federal cases with Blue Bullets 147 ( really 148) .357 bullets with 2.6gr of Clays, 1.190 OAL. They just barely make power factor, but more importantly they drop in to the cylinder easily with .035 TK moon clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Ok, here's what I found. For me, 9mm Federal brass works best with TK moon clips, and Winchester 9mm brass works best Ranch Products moon clips. Both setups allow the brass to spin in the clips, and easily drop into the cylinder. Ranch Products moon clips are about 1/4 the cost of TK moon clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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