zen_grasshopper Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) Disclaimer: I don't work for SSI, or am sponsored by them, just want to help out a small business in getting the word out about these as they are new and these are the first two sold after they went live on the website and I personally think they are amazing. New grips from Shooting Sports Innovations for the CZ. These are the Scales 4.0 modular. Aluminum with the option to add weight modules to the inside of the grips to add some weight if you want. Brass and tungsten inserts are available. Here is the weight breakdown from the SSI website. SSI made some serious improvements just in the shape and texture of these grips over the previous Scales and Scales 2.0. They are slightly thicker at 1.41" across and the taper at the top is not as aggressive as the previous models which result in the grips filling your hands more. I don't have sasquatch hands, but somewhat longer fingers. I ran Scales for a long time, and I loved the shape but were a bit too thin up top and wanted more texture so last season I switched to LOK palm swells that were oversized by .040" on each side. The one thing I didn't like about those was the coke bottle shape that left a gap on the bottom of my support hand. These are straight all the way down which allows more of my support hand to be on the gun and the taper is much less severe and the new texture is excellent. Smooth where I want it and aggressive where I need it. Comparison of my previous oversized LOKs to the Scale 4.0 The weight inserts, I used a small amount of marine silicon to "glue" the weight in, once dry they are still easy to remove if needed and acetone will clean up the silicon. I have one brass insert and one tungsten insert on each of the guns, and they both weigh almost 52oz with an empty magazine and Springer base pad. I know some people will comment on the price of the inserts, but brass and tungsten is hard on tooling and with the setup costs for the small runs that are done it adds up. You don't need to run the inserts if you don't want the added weight. Both sets fit the guns very well with no shifting or movement when screwed in place. I did have to relieve under the magazine release slightly to ensure that I could depress the magazine release fully, and talking to Nathan he said some guns may need it and others may not. The magazine release could also be relieved instead of the grip itself, it was a very minor amount. The blue and black anodized versions will be coming out in the next week or so, and when I get my blue ones for my match gun I will probably relieve the mag release if it is an issue. I know that grips are a personal fit, and for me they really knocked it out of the park. Edited October 13, 2020 by zen_grasshopper Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomorro Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Very cool!Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It’s a really cool concept, but the total price is a bit more than I’d be willing to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Neat concept... price is a bit high, and the grips are probably too thick for my small girly hands. It might work for me if I could get a thin side and then a thick/weight insert side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb43 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Can you post a pic of a side by side comparison of the old and new scales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen_grasshopper Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rb43 said: Can you post a pic of a side by side comparison of the old and new scales? I don't have any of the old Scales that are still original, I only have one set that I silicon carbided so they are a bit thicker than normal, but I will get that done tomorrow when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen_grasshopper Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 compared to the original Scales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb43 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Seems like those will fit my XXL sized hands. I ordered a set of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdfwguy Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I think I'm getting a set of these as well. I've tried a bunch of different grips, and just can't make enough room for my support hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb43 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just got these in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rb43 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) I am disappointed in the finish of these. Edited October 22, 2020 by Rb43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rb43 said: I am disappointed in the finish of these. I didn't want to say it, but yeah, those are pretty rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb43 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Rough? They look like complete garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 That's fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen_grasshopper Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 19 hours ago, Rb43 said: Rough? They look like complete garbage! Sorry that you don’t like the appearance, how do they feel for you? I would think that the grips effectiveness would be more important than how it looks, my grips have always looked like crap within a few weeks due to dead skin, ProGrip, dirt, and getting dinged up so appearance hasn’t been the top of my priorities. The grips are fully machined, as a former machinist myself doing the contours and texture that was done is not an easy process. To make it completely perfect with no machining marks would be cost prohibitive to the customer due to the increased amount of machine time for finishing passes. I am sure that Nathan would allow you to return them if you don’t like them. I personally love the look, but I don’t care personally about a perfect finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudaman Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Thanks Robtor305 for posting feedback.. And thanks for being a repeat customer. Please keep in mind that these 4.0 grips are 5 axis fully machined and to have a perfect finish would be cost prohibitive. The grip design is performance based and is perfect for the competitive market. I was going to reply to your email previously sent directly to SSI, but posting here works just fine. I am glad to refund your purchase. Please send me the grips and after inspection we will immediately credit you back. Thanks for supporting a small business. SSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, cudaman said: Thanks Robtor305 for posting feedback.. And thanks for being a repeat customer. Please keep in mind that these 4.0 grips are 5 axis fully machined and to have a perfect finish would be cost prohibitive. The grip design is performance based and is perfect for the competitive market. I was going to reply to your email previously sent directly to SSI, but posting here works just fine. I am glad to refund your purchase. Please send me the grips and after inspection we will immediately credit you back. Thanks for supporting a small business. SSI If you are wondering why a post was removed, please read the the following: AdvertisingThe general forums are not for any advertising whatsoever.Please do not advertise products or services for yourself or for others in your posts or your Signature, either with text, links, Avatars or images.However, a non-linked, single line of text in your Signature stating "Team ______" is permitted."Group Buys" are not permitted on Brian's Forums. And WTB (Want To Buy) Posts are only permitted in the Classified Forums.Please do not advertise products or services for yourself or for others in your Posts or Signature, either with text, links, avatars, images or videos. This includes any videos, personal or YouTube, that solicit subscriptions or donations, or include advertising links in videos or at the video viewing site.Any sort of advertising in Posts or Signatures will be removed by a Moderator, then the Member will be notified with a PM.I'm sorry for the bluntness of this - we are making every effort to be fair to our paying Forum Dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyscott999 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, GrumpyOne said: If you are wondering why a post was removed, please read the the following: AdvertisingThe general forums are not for any advertising whatsoever.Please do not advertise products or services for yourself or for others in your posts or your Signature, either with text, links, Avatars or images.However, a non-linked, single line of text in your Signature stating "Team ______" is permitted."Group Buys" are not permitted on Brian's Forums. And WTB (Want To Buy) Posts are only permitted in the Classified Forums.Please do not advertise products or services for yourself or for others in your Posts or Signature, either with text, links, avatars, images or videos. This includes any videos, personal or YouTube, that solicit subscriptions or donations, or include advertising links in videos or at the video viewing site.Any sort of advertising in Posts or Signatures will be removed by a Moderator, then the Member will be notified with a PM.I'm sorry for the bluntness of this - we are making every effort to be fair to our paying Forum Dealers. I am confused. Apparently SSI was told about a customer complaint posted here. He responded that he would refund the purchase. Not really sure how that is advertising. Hella good customer service but far from advertising, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, Shadyscott999 said: I am confused. Apparently SSI was told about a customer complaint posted here. He responded that he would refund the purchase. Not really sure how that is advertising. Hella good customer service but far from advertising, IMO. See this part? "any advertising whatsoever."... Besides that, "Brian's Forums is not the place to resolve customer service issues or disputes you may have with a manufacturer, dealer, gunsmith, or individual." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb43 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) ...... Edited October 23, 2020 by Rb43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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