DavidSeavey Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I'm running a Dissident KL12 instead, but my gun hates the fiocci slugs as well, but not for extraction reasons rather the mushy soft hull that extends so far past the slug, it'll get ovaled from being stacked in a magazine 'sideways' and wont fit into the chamber. love them in tube guns though. my box fed go to for slugs is federal low recoil, the hull is hard enough to live in a 20 round stack and still chamber and they shoot consistently in my experience. the hornady low recoil are pretty similar as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper5243 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Somebody had Rem low recoil slugs about a month or two ago. $0.50 a round. Kicking myself for not buying all of it. All of it i see now is well over $1 a round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Since it's no longer on genesis arms website, going to guess that the 14.5 inch version is no longer a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Quick update - These low recoil slugs are good to go in the GEN-12. All 10 rds went into the MGM B/C steel at 100 yds while being supported off a metal fence post so I didn't even look at the grouping. BTW, the Swampfox Kingslayer is still alive and well. I also like the 5-rds magazine much better for fast swapping of loads so will have to order a couple more. https://www.freedommunitions.com/12-ga-2-3-4-x-treme-slug-reduced-recoil-plain-lead.html Edited February 9, 2022 by PacMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, PacMan said: Quick update - These low recoil slugs are good to go in the GEN-12. All 10 rds went into the MGM B/C steel at 100 yds while being supported off a metal fence post so I didn't even look at the grouping. BTW, the Swampfox Kingslayer is still alive and well. I also like the 5-rds magazine much better for fast swapping of loads so will have to order a couple more. https://www.freedommunitions.com/12-ga-2-3-4-x-treme-slug-reduced-recoil-plain-lead.html That's good to hear ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Well, finally picked up my GEN-12 from customs yesterday, will post pics soon, have an appointment with a gunsmith this friday so that I can get the G12 off and put on the JMAC. Tried an assortment of locally made 24 grains, those didn't seem to have enough umpf to cycle the action, 32 grains did the trick tho, now to find some 28 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 OK, sorry, this took freaking 2 months: Still plan to change a few things, but it's been running great, I'm still surprised on how easy it is to clean this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 10:30 PM, ard212 said: Well, finally picked up my GEN-12 from customs yesterday, will post pics soon, have an appointment with a gunsmith this friday so that I can get the G12 off and put on the JMAC. Tried an assortment of locally made 24 grains, those didn't seem to have enough umpf to cycle the action, 32 grains did the trick tho, now to find some 28 grains. Quick correction, grams not grains, clearly this is my first shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/24/2022 at 6:10 PM, ard212 said: Quick correction, grams not grains, clearly this is my first shotgun. The comp works against (resists) the barrel reciprocating (moving back into the receiver) and that can negatively effect an otherwise very reliable shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Welcome back Mr. Kelley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 8:09 PM, P.E. Kelley said: The comp works against (resists) the barrel reciprocating (moving back into the receiver) and that can negatively effect an otherwise very reliable shotgun. Hmmm...I didn't think about this part. I don't have a comp on mine yet but the 'diminishing return' effect will make me think twice before shelling out $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 7:53 AM, kurtm said: Welcome back Mr. Kelley! Thank you my friend. I pop in on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 12:09 AM, P.E. Kelley said: The comp works against (resists) the barrel reciprocating (moving back into the receiver) and that can negatively effect an otherwise very reliable shotgun. Thanks Mr Kelley ! I have been following your Instagram, it seems to me that outside from the people who work at Genesis, you might be the one person who best knows the inner workings of this thing. Any suggestion for a good comp that might strike a nice balance between recoil reduction and reliability ? I was looking at the Howitzer70 from Hi-Tech: http://www.hitechcc.com/product/HTC-121_VS.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.E. Kelley Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Some thoughts on the Genesis. https://youtu.be/UY9P65Gx-L4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, P.E. Kelley said: Some thoughts on the Genesis. https://youtu.be/UY9P65Gx-L4 Awesome video sir ! FYI I'm the guy pestering you about the flared magwell kit Edited October 6, 2022 by ard212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Shot my new Genesis with pyro3gun magazine couplers at High Desert this weekend. 300 plus rounds without a single malfunction . I’m thoroughly happy with the set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Another match completed with ZERO malfunctions. As an ex vr80 operator, I can’t tell you how ecstatic I am with my Patrick Kelly Genesis 12 with pyro magazine couplers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) On 7/1/2023 at 7:36 PM, sheepdog566 said: Another match completed with ZERO malfunctions. As an ex vr80 operator, I can’t tell you how ecstatic I am with my Patrick Kelly Genesis 12 with pyro magazine couplers. That looks sick, it's amazing what Patrick has been able to do with the Gen-12, you running the stock buffer/spring combo or some kind of hydraulic setup ? Edited July 5, 2023 by ard212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Original buffer with flat spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfehr401 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 7/1/2023 at 6:36 PM, sheepdog566 said: Another match completed with ZERO malfunctions. As an ex vr80 operator, I can’t tell you how ecstatic I am with my Patrick Kelly Genesis 12 with pyro magazine couplers. Pretty sweet set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) On 7/5/2023 at 10:08 PM, sheepdog566 said: Original buffer with flat spring Great ! I ended up installing the KynSHOT hydraulic buffer (Model RB5004 “Shorty”) and a Tubb Precision AR-10 Flatwire Buffer Spring, works great, it really does soften up the recoil, I have a Magpul enhanced mag release on the way and after that I only need Genesis to sell me a freaking flared magwell kit ! That thing has been out of stock for more than a year ! Seriously, what's the deal with the magwell kit ? I've seen it on new production units, Taran has them on that special edition model he made in collaboration with Genesis, why is it so hard to have them back in stock ? For a shotgun that's targeted to the competitive shooter, not having a flared magwell adapter available it's kinda silly, does anyone if Genesis makes that part or if they outsource it like with the mag extensions from Taylor Freelance ? Edited July 27, 2023 by ard212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, ard212 said: Great ! I ended up installing the KynSHOT hydraulic buffer (Model RB5004 “Shorty”) and a Tubb Precision AR-10 Flatwire Buffer Spring, works great, it really does soften up the recoil, I have a Magpul enhanced mag release on the way and after that I only need Genesis to sell me a freaking flared magwell kit ! That thing has been out of stock for more than a year ! Seriously, what's the deal with the magwell kit ? I've seen it on new production units, Taran has them on that special edition model he made in collaboration with Genesis, why is it so hard to have them back in stock ? For a shotgun that's targeted to the competitive shooter, not having a flared magwell adapter available it's kinda silly, does anyone if Genesis makes that part or if they outsource it like with the mag extensions from Taylor Freelance ? Not sure they are targeting the competitive shooter. They are heavily invested in the LE and military market. PK has been working with Genesis to turn it into a sporting rifle. I got lucky on the magwell from a secondary distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 12:19 AM, sheepdog566 said: Not sure they are targeting the competitive shooter. They are heavily invested in the LE and military market. PK has been working with Genesis to turn it into a sporting rifle. I got lucky on the magwell from a secondary distributor. Would you mind sharing the name of the distributor ? Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog566 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, ard212 said: Would you mind sharing the name of the distributor ? Thanks ! It was a few months ago. They had one sitting around for a customer who didn’t pick it up. I’m positive they don’t have anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ard212 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 14 hours ago, sheepdog566 said: It was a few months ago. They had one sitting around for a customer who didn’t pick it up. I’m positive they don’t have anymore Damnit ! How is it possible that in 2023 no one makes a flared magwell for a DPMS lower ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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