Siemens2 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) As a new reloader I believe I want to use Sport Pistol however I cannot find it anywhere. Is there an ebb and flow with Alliant Powders and availability? Thanks Edited January 18, 2019 by Siemens2 Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Powder valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 been out for awhile,, Why u need back up loads... Tightgroup, WST, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajblack Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Ya everyone is pretty much jumping on the Sport Pistol train for 9 minor so it's sold out quite often. It's a great powder but it's pretty much the same burn rate as win 231 and WST so I would just go with something like that until it comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemens2 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 I have Titegroup currently and will look into 231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajblack Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Siemens2 said: I have Titegroup currently and will look into 231 You'll probably find that 231 is the closer of the two as compared to Sport Pistol (in terms of burn rate and load data). It's a fair bit dirtier though. I used to use 231 exclusively for 9mm until I switched to Sport Pistol. Nothing wrong with Titegroup either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Keep in mind why Sport pistol is so popular vs titegroup in regards to melting the coating on coated lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 In my testing of sport pistol it is a reformulation of Bullseye. same charge by weight produces the some velocity with in 2 FPS. Volume is different but weight is the same. So recommend Bullseye till you can get sport pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AHI said: In my testing of sport pistol it is a reformulation of Bullseye. same charge by weight produces the some velocity with in 2 FPS. Volume is different but weight is the same. So recommend Bullseye till you can get sport pistol. According to the powder "burn rate" charts, Sport Pistol is somewhat slower than Bullseye and, in fact, is slightly slower than Titegroup. The fact that Alliant lists no 9 mm loads for Bullseye but numerous ones for Sport Pistol tends to support that they aren't that close in properties. Edited January 19, 2019 by SteelCityShooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Siemens2 said: As a new reloader I believe I want to use Sport Pistol however I cannot find it anywhere. Is there an ebb and flow with Alliant Powders and availability? Thanks Grafs.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemens2 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 It showed back in stock at Brownells. Going to stop in on Monday to pick some up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, SteelCityShooter said: Bullseye but numerous ones for Sport Pistol tends to support that they aren't that close in properties. Have printed data for Bullseye and 9mm. Where bid you find a burn rate chart with sport pistol? My findings are from actual use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) On 1/18/2019 at 5:54 PM, AHI said: In my testing of sport pistol it is a reformulation of Bullseye. same charge by weight produces the some velocity with in 2 FPS. Volume is different but weight is the same. So recommend Bullseye till you can get sport pistol. It depends on what you mean by reformulation. BE-86 and Power Pistol are the same basic compound as Bullseye, with different particle sizes and shapes and different additives and coatings and whatnot to create different burn rates and different desired characteristics. I have seen nothing about this being the case with Sport Pistol. Edited January 20, 2019 by IDescribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Nevermind. I see now that you don't mean that it's a reformulation OF Bullseye, but that it's supposed to duplicate Bullseye's performance with some new characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 21 hours ago, AHI said: Have printed data for Bullseye and 9mm. Where bid you find a burn rate chart with sport pistol? My findings are from actual use. I didn't but Alliant states its burn rate between two of their current powders (American Select and Green Dot) and the burn rate charts list those. I did some more searching and Alliant does indeed publish data for 9 mm loads using Bullseye and the recommended charge weights are very similar to Sport Pistol and Titegroup. So, while Sport Pistol isn't a modified Bullseye, it fits into then same usage range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, IDescribe said: Nevermind. I see now that you don't mean that it's a reformulation OF Bullseye, but that it's supposed to duplicate Bullseye's performance with some new characteristics. yes and so far chrono data confirms this. the smoke is a little lighter with SP and weight of charges are the same in 9mm so far Edited January 20, 2019 by AHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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