HowardM Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) If a paper target falls after the buzzer is it a mandatory re-shoot or can the shooter continue the stage and take the time and also can the shooter stop the stage if it happens or does it have to be stopped by the range officer I had it happen to me in a match and I kept on going because I didn’t know what to do Edited July 22, 2018 by HowardM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I am not sure what the subject target is doing? But if it falls before you engage the target, that would be a REF and a mandatory reshoot. If it falls after you engage it, it may be a reshoot depending on your reaction and the RO's opinion. You did the right thing by not stopping yourself. If you stop and the RO sees no reason for the stop, you own the time spent! If the target balls, I would probably watch. Later, Chuck PS: You need to invest in some punctuation keys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardM Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) Yes the target fell prior to being engaged damn smartphones lol Edited July 22, 2018 by HowardM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 What is a paper target ball? Anyway if the target falls after the buzzer, it a stage malfunction and a re-shoot. 4.6.2 A competitor who is unable to complete a course of fire due to range equipment failure, or if a metal or moving target was not reset prior to his attempt at a course of fire, must be required to reshoot the course of fire after corrective actions have been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 5 hours ago, HowardM said: Yes the target fell prior to being engaged damn smartphones lol Of course it's REF and a reshoot then. How else are they going to score the stage? In that case I would just stop myself and save my ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Suggestion! Never stop yourself! unless there is a VERY obvious safety concern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Good advice, in general, but if I see a target fall over that I haven't shot yet, I'm still going to. You're free to do as you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 At a local I’ll yell “target fell over!” Just so the RO will see it and stop me sooner to save my ammo... But definitely keep going until they command you to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: At a local I’ll yell “target fell over!” Just so the RO will see it and stop me sooner to save my ammo... But definitely keep going until they command you to stop. unless you are experienced enough to be certain you are getting a re-shoot. I personally stop shooting for an obvious REF, but newer shooters want to be careful they are not confused. I have seen folks stop for an unpasted target, or a for a popper they shot down from another position. Of course no reshoot there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Agreed. At a local match with a brand new timer holder who was just getting heavily involved in the sport I’ve actually done this while running a stage: blam blam blam blam ”that target wasn’t pasted! you need to yell stop or the shooter has to keep going...” blam blam ”STOP!” (Then you get to make sure they know never to stop shooting as the competitor, and to never be hesitant to stop a shooter as the RO. That’s their duty.) Edited July 23, 2018 by MemphisMechanic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Shooter shouldn't stop and the RO shouldn't stop you for an unpasted target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yeah, if the target isn't pasted and the shooter wants to stop, at a level 1 I will coach them and say 'keep shooting, dumbass'. At a level 2 I will just look at them and hold the timer up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Nothing says stop shooting! 9.1.4 Unrestored Targets – If, following completion of a course of fire by a previous competitor, one or more targets have not been properly patched or taped or if previously applied pasters have fallen off the target for the competitor being scored, the Range Officer must judge whether or not an accurate score can be determined. If there are extra scoring hits or questionable penalty hits thereon, and it is not obvious which hits were made by the competitor being scored, the affected competitor must be ordered to reshoot the course of fire. For the purpose of this rule, B -zone and C -zone hits s hall be considered one and the same. Reviewing previous score sheets is prohibited; targets must be scored as is, using the actual target as the basis for the scoring call . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Reshoot. Stop yourself if you are 100% sure, the RO should stop you if he is aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 2:01 PM, waktasz said: Shooter shouldn't stop and the RO shouldn't stop you for an unpasted target. I just ROed a guy that shot a target from 2 positions and stopped after making holes 3 and 4. The said, that target wasn't pasted. i was nice and told him "you shot all those holes!" . Lol, he got busy quick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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