RaylanGivens Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 What RTS2 mount locates the sight to the rear of the slide? Seems like a good idea for a 9mm Open gun. I've seen Chris Tilley shooting one at the Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911builder Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Everglades ammunition makes them, I saw them on their instagram page but not on their website. May have to send an email or give them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 You can get them at CZ Custom. https://czcustom.com/multi-sight-base-75-st-black.html this has s for the CZ75, but they are available for all CZ models and are good for the RTS2 and DDP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ano Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Maybe brass doesnt get stuck in mount all the time then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I made one, didn't work for me. I had more dot movement. I am not a G.M. , I am sure his grip is much better than mine. I think limcat makes one. Edited November 28, 2017 by bmiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jht05016 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I have a buddy who is starting to make them that i can hook you up with. I tested one out and liked it quite a bit. I wont be trading out my SV mount, but it was pretty trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 There was a post somewhere about the world shoot that showed Tilley's gun. Believe his mount was a one off, and I believe it mentioned much tuning to make run/eject well.Sent from my SM-G360V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Look on atlas guns web page, they show one on one of their custom open guns. I would call and ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jht05016 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Beef15 said: There was a post somewhere about the world shoot that showed Tilley's gun. Believe his mount was a one off, and I believe it mentioned much tuning to make run/eject well. Sent from my SM-G360V using Tapatalk took me about 15 min to get it running 100%. Just had to move the pattern lower, by drafting the ejector and touching up the extractor a touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 hours ago, abb1 said: You can get them at CZ Custom. https://czcustom.com/multi-sight-base-75-st-black.html this has s for the CZ75, but they are available for all CZ models and are good for the RTS2 and DDP. Not the same. This is a frame mount that is set back, not a slide mounted dot. Everglades had them on the website for a short while, they may have taken them off when they ran out of stock from the first run. If you would like I can look into it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 As far as it being a good idea for a 9mm open gun, I kinda disagree. Think about where the ejection port is when it is fully open, in relation to where that optic is sitting. It moves the scope to directly above the ejection port, which is one of the primary things going to a mini dot is supposed to eliminate in the first place. Not to mention, it means you have to run a right side racker, which is dumb. I think it is more about getting the balance of the gun the way you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gooldylocks said: As far as it being a good idea for a 9mm open gun, I kinda disagree. Think about where the ejection port is when it is fully open, in relation to where that optic is sitting. It moves the scope to directly above the ejection port, which is one of the primary things going to a mini dot is supposed to eliminate in the first place. Not to mention, it means you have to run a right side racker, which is dumb. I wanna party with this guy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, Sarge said: I wanna party with this guy!!! I'm super fun. Also very literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altabonita Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I bought a similar mount from Atlas. I have been very happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theWacoKid Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Jht05016 said: I have a buddy who is starting to make them that i can hook you up with. I tested one out and liked it quite a bit. I wont be trading out my SV mount, but it was pretty trick. Contact me for info. The mount does what you would expect it to do. Yes, you need to make sure your gun runs properly and consistently. I've run prototypes exclusively since July on my guns and we've had success on other guns with caliber being irrelevant. If you find the benefits of the mount as some do, just like everything, you will find a way to make it work. It isn't for everyone but definitely for some. Edited November 29, 2017 by theWacoKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelix Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, theWacoKid said: Contact me for info. The mount does what you would expect it to do. Yes, you need to make sure your gun runs properly and consistently. I've run prototypes exclusively since July on my guns and we've had success on other guns with caliber being irrelevant. If you find the benefits of the mount as some do, just like everything, you will find a way to make it work. It isn't for everyone but definitely for some. So what is main benefit, is it just less dot movement. Also is it offset like a Cheely mount, if so you should have no issues with cases hitting it. I would think it may flex a bit more though. Nice guns buy the way. Edited November 29, 2017 by Steelix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) I tried another similar version and it was all about tuning the ejection if running 9. One gun ran and the other jammed 1:1000. Too much for me. Went to an Everglades(regular mount) and problem solved. Some might like it, same as for all other items stated above, I didn't. Edited November 30, 2017 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theWacoKid Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Just now, Steelix said: So what is main benefit, is it just less dot movement. Also is it offset like a Cheely mount, if so you should have no issues with cases hitting it. I would think it may flex a bit more though. Nice guns buy the way. Increased field of view through the glass, location of the dot relative to your grip, and yes the dot movement. I won't say the movement is "better" but it is absolutely different. The dot doesn't return to poa any faster, that's gun physics, but I feel like I "see" it more. I've found that some people really do not like the way it tracks and others really do like the way it tracks. There's no question the actual sight itself moves less which you can equate to less dot movement and less stress on the optic. Yes, it is offset. Yes, it is a less stiff system. Main design parameters were focused around maximizing the clearance angle for ejection and maintaining as much stiffness as possible while getting all the benefits of the rear mounted dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecoilJunkie Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I run one of @theWacoKid mounts and it did take some getting use to but once you get used to it I feel like I can see more and track the dot a little easier. All in all I like it and will continue to run it. The only mount I'd run other than this is the SV mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 20 hours ago, Gooldylocks said: As far as it being a good idea for a 9mm open gun, I kinda disagree. Think about where the ejection port is when it is fully open, in relation to where that optic is sitting. It moves the scope to directly above the ejection port, which is one of the primary things going to a mini dot is supposed to eliminate in the first place. Not to mention, it means you have to run a right side racker, which is dumb. I think it is more about getting the balance of the gun the way you like it. Interesting comments... When someone above mentioned that the Everglades guys made these sights, I figured you would either have one (which it appears you do not) or have an opinion on them... Have you tried one? It does seem odd that this sight position reintroduces possible sight-brass interference with small mini dots... I figured that there must be some kind of a trade off that I couldn't figure out... Some kind of benefit to the rearward location... Would be nice to compare one side-by-side with a standard sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, RaylanGivens said: Interesting comments... When someone above mentioned that the Everglades guys made these sights, I figured you would either have one (which it appears you do not) or have an opinion on them... Have you tried one? It does seem odd that this sight position reintroduces possible sight-brass interference with small mini dots... I figured that there must be some kind of a trade off that I couldn't figure out... Some kind of benefit to the rearward location... Would be nice to compare one side-by-side with a standard sight. I have not used the Everglades one, no. I played with one on a friend's Atlas this spring, and didn't care for it. The window appears slightly bigger, but I didn't notice a difference in dot tracking or anything vs a normal mount. For me window size doesn't make much of a difference, the way I see it the dot is either there or it's not. If you are having to "look" for the dot, then you need to practice more. If you are interested I can give EGA a call and see what the deal is with the mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberacp Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) I spoke to Chris Tiley about this mount a year or so ago. What I remember him telling me was that smaller dot size looked larger and that the feel or balance of the gun was more in the center of his grip. Also email Altas, awhile ago about thier mount and their reply was.... :there was no significant advantage, between the rear mount and the standard mount, in their opinion. FWIW Edited December 5, 2017 by kimberacp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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