CarlB86 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) My S3 is approaching one year old and I'd estimate the round count in the 12k range, as I do about 1k rounds per month. Dry fire I do some DA pulls, but often the gun is out of battery to simulate SA pull. No hammer drops. This was my initial thought on maintenance. Anything I should be doing? -New recoil spring -New extractor spring (extra power) -New hammer spring -New firing pin spring -New firing pin block spring I didn't really imagine and hard parts need replacement, but would the firing pin retainer need to be done preventatively? Edited September 11, 2017 by CarlB86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 In December I plan to strip both guns down, sonic clean everything, another round of polishing & replace all of the springs. It sounds like you've got it all covered. I wouldn't replace the FP retainer unless it's chewed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gviz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 hours ago, SCTaylor said: In December I plan to strip both guns down, sonic clean everything, another round of polishing & replace all of the springs. It sounds like you've got it all covered. I wouldn't replace the FP retainer unless it's chewed up. hey SC, when you say sonic clean do you send it out to have it done or you have a machine to do it at home? what do you use if you don't mind me asking. i would like to know if this sonic cleaner is the same thing im seeing on youtube for brass cleaning as well...btw thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I'm going to get a small unit just large enough to handle the frame or slide. Probably an el cheapo from eBay or amazon. Essentially it's an oversize jewelry cleaner. Just strip it all down, toss in with some degreaser and be done. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Add sear spring and trigger return spring. That will return it to "new" and be ready for another year. Inspect close. polish up places that look rough or have sliding / rotation wear marks. Hard parts should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlB86 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Buying a new gun is easier than replacing the return spring, right? I've never removed my trigger pin, but guess I'll learn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, CarlB86 said: Buying a new gun is easier than replacing the return spring, right? I've never removed my trigger pin, but guess I'll learn! Na it's pretty easy with using a q-tip as a slave pin. I actually got it in the first time, first try ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlB86 Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 Ooo, good tip, no pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 KneelingAtlas first mentions it in his CZ write-up and I think Memphis shows the same tip in his video(s). It saves a *explitive* ton of frustration and time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) For a trigger return slave pin, I cut down a small Allen wrench that came with one of the front sights. Cajun Gun Works also includes a tiny roll pin to use as a slave pin with their return springs. I used to use a q tip, but those can deform and cause trouble. Edited September 15, 2017 by Twinkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Twinkie said: For a trigger return slave pin, I cut down a small Allen wrench that came with one of the front sights. Cajun Gun Works also includes a tiny roll pin to use as a slave pin with their return springs. I used to use a q tip, but those can deform and cause trouble. 10 hours ago, SCTaylor said: Na it's pretty easy with using a q-tip as a slave pin. I actually got it in the first time, first try ever. 10 hours ago, CarlB86 said: Buying a new gun is easier than replacing the return spring, right? I've never removed my trigger pin, but guess I'll learn! Tip of the day - If you have a BOLO the pin works perfectly as a slave pin for holding the TRS into place and installing the trigger pin back in the frame..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Tip of the day - If you have a BOLO the pin works perfectly as a slave pin for holding the TRS into place and installing the trigger pin back in the frame.....Yeah, but not all of us have BOLO's [emoji6]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintMorris Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 hours ago, SCTaylor said: Yeah, but not all of us have BOLO's Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe not, but it's just one more reason to buy one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kujo929 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Using the canik trigger pin makes it much easier also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I use a small section of nail with one side flat and the other rounded. That holds the spring in the trigger, then just align and set the real pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 6:03 PM, PatriotDefense said: Tip of the day - If you have a BOLO the pin works perfectly as a slave pin for holding the TRS into place and installing the trigger pin back in the frame..... This is what I beleive I showed in the videos, but a section of Q-tip is what I used before you mentioned it. Between that and the canik pin, trigger springs are easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 7:03 PM, PatriotDefense said: Tip of the day - If you have a BOLO the pin works perfectly as a slave pin for holding the TRS into place and installing the trigger pin back in the frame..... Great tip. Bad tips from a couple days back. Slave pin too small in diameter will let the trs go and make you crazy. Bigger slave pin that fits perfect in the trigger will be too big to exit through frame, and make you crazy till you figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No slide stops or extractors on the annual replacement lists? Nice change from cz's, although I've never had a problem with an extractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Some do break, but it's rare. I'm still shooting the snot out of the originals in all my guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, IHAVEGAS said: Great tip. Bad tips from a couple days back. Slave pin too small in diameter will let the trs go and make you crazy. Bigger slave pin that fits perfect in the trigger will be too big to exit through frame, and make you crazy till you figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 that is the reason i bought small lathe and mill . slave pin for trigger assy for cz and tan. slave pin for sear assy for tan. mill is for making comp. holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanfastic Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 That is a benefit to using a "disposble" slave pin (I use a plastic one cut off the end of a plastic cleaning swab), it will not damage anything if it gets jammed up or cocked sideways while driving it out. I've been using the same one for months, dozens of times, works great. I made a sear spring slave out of the same plastic, although that doesn't get used as often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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