zzt Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 DJ, it is because of the shape of the chambers. I went with plated or jacketed, because I HATE cleaning lead out of a comp. However, that wouldn't stop me from shooting lead if that was all I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 OK, you have until this evening to talk me out of the Czechmate and I pull the trigger on this. If anyone has reason these two should not be joined, speak now or forever hold your peace. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, RevolverJockey said: OK, you have until this evening to talk me out of the Czechmate and I pull the trigger on this. If anyone has reason these two should not be joined, speak now or forever hold your peace. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I'd go with the CM any day and twice on Sundays Let us know what you decide and better yet, post some pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/10/2017 at 9:34 PM, kneelingatlas said: At 42oz, it's seven ounces lighter than my similarly equipped Czechmate (backup gun), and shoots significantly flatter. If you want a CZ Open gun on the cheap I have a few 75 SA based guns you might be interested in. Wow Atlas, that is nice work! I like the cuts in the grip, as it not only reduces weight, it also adds grip texture. The only thing that I would do, is switch to an RTS2 or DPP and reduce that weight even further by another 3-4 oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, abb1 said: The only thing that I would do, is switch to an RTS2 or DPP and reduce that weight even further by another 3-4 oz I've been down that road and back, I just couldn't get used to the higher, smaller glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abb1 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said: I've been down that road and back, I just couldn't get used to the higher, smaller glass. Yeah, there is no right or wrong way for mount and optics. It is whatever works for you. I looked at the side mount and unfortunately they do not work for me, otherwise, that is probably what I would be using as I also like my glass as close to the slide as possible. My thumb gets in the way of the mount when gripping it. It also eliminates the possibility to put my slide racker on the left side of my Czechmate (where it should be), which I do not like. Edited September 21, 2017 by abb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, abb1 said: It also eliminates the possibility to put my slide racker on the left side of my Czechmate (where it should be), which I do not like. Agreed, there's a particular spot right behind the extractor pin where you have to cut the dovetail to make it all work. The funny thing is I switch back and forth between my TS and CM and don't even notice the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Agreed, there's a particular spot right behind the extractor pin where you have to cut the dovetail to make it all work. The funny thing is I switch back and forth between my TS and CM and don't even notice the difference Atlas how does the comp on your new build rate verses the factory Czechmate comp? I have been contemplating either milling some side slots on the last two chambers of my Czechmate comp or milling out the last two chambers into one large chamber similar to the new comp you are using on the new gun. Thoughts?Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, MrPostman said: Atlas how does the comp on your new build rate verses the factory Czechmate comp? I have been contemplating either milling some side slots on the last two chambers of my Czechmate comp or milling out the last two chambers into one large chamber similar to the new comp you are using on the new gun. Thoughts? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk The TS build definitely shoots flatter than the Czechmate, but there are so many differences it's like comparing apples and oranges. It's much lighter, has a lighter slide, better comp and is stroked by 0.400". When it comes to modifying the CM comp, Greg T did these mods: and this is what he said about it on Facebook earlier this month: "Do not do it --- it will indeed screw up the recoil characteristics." I too thought the side ports I cut in the last port made it worse the only mod I can recommend is trimming back the barrel and lengthening the first port like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 15 hours ago, kneelingatlas said: Agreed, there's a particular spot right behind the extractor pin where you have to cut the dovetail to make it all work. The funny thing is I switch back and forth between my TS and CM and don't even notice the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 perfect workmanship . how yours design prevent rotation of comp. with standard slide? (or u used 1911 system and the comp is secured steady to barrel?) in cm. they chop slide to allow guide rod do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 45 minutes ago, yigal said: perfect workmanship . how yours design prevent rotation of comp. with standard slide? (or u used 1911 system and the comp is secured steady to barrel?) in cm. they chop slide to allow guide rod do this. The comp is fixed to the barrel and the slide/barrel are modified to allow the barrel/comp to be removed through the front of the slide like a 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, kneelingatlas said: The comp is fixed to the barrel and the slide/barrel are modified to allow the barrel/comp to be removed through the front of the slide like a 1911. like this . its like tan. with bull barrel. on earlier cz75 i use to fix the comp. with screw 10-32 to flat surface behind the thread. i will appreciate if u can make pic. of the barrel from the chamber to sea the 45 deg . chamfer u done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Does anyone have any experience with taking a checkmate and drilling people holes in the barrel like the Akia guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengun Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I bought my first TS in 2012 (because I was too intimidated to shoot my first USPSA match with a Czechmate) and within six months it looked like this: Although it was pretty heavy (54oz w/o mag) it shot pretty soft and somewhat flat. This was a pretty simple and cheap project, but five years and dozens of guns later it's the best Open gun I've ever shot! At 42oz, it's seven ounces lighter than my similarly equipped Czechmate (backup gun), and shoots significantly flatter. If you want a CZ Open gun on the cheap I have a few 75 SA based guns you might be interested in.Hi, I happen to found this post of yours and I am very interested if I may get some guidance from you in adding a comp to a TS. I actually have a TSO in .40S&W. I want to convert it to 9mm with a comp like in your picture. I understand I need to buy a SP01 slide and a TS barrel plus additional work. Could you give me more details on what I’ll need to do? Will I still be able to use the original slide and barrel to shoot .40?Thanks!SteveSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Steve, The pictures are dead, but this thread still has a lot of info to get you started: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadShot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) If a guy already had a 9mm Tactical Sport Orange: Installed a red dot frame mount for an RTS2 Had a gunsmith fit a threaded barrel(not sure where to get this) and comp Get some higher capacity mags Load up a 9mm major load Would this make a reasonable open gun? Sorry, I didn't notice that was a year old thread Edited December 30, 2018 by BadShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, BadShot said: If a guy already had a 9mm Tactical Sport Orange: Installed a red dot frame mount for an RTS2 Had a gunsmith fit a threaded barrel(not sure where to get this) and comp Get some higher capacity mags Load up a 9mm major load Would this make a reasonable open gun? CZCustom just came out with a threaded 9mm barrel. Optic and mount plus figure out a comp for the 1/2-28 thread. That will get you there. About $800 in addition to the gun to get to open. Little cheaper if you go with a C'more rather than the RTS2. Optic mount, barrel and comp will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadShot Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Thanks, I already have a RTS2 and a Delta Point Pro, just trying to keep costs down. Would the Tactical Sport frame hold up to 9mm major loads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The TS and CM frames are essentially the same. The length and cut/geometry of the dust cover is visually the only difference. So I'd say yes, no reason a TSO frame could not shoot 9mm major. The CMs were known to break barrel lugs early on, I'd say that would be the weak point if the threaded CZC barrel for some reason did not have the improved lug design. I haven't seen one of the new threaded 9mm barrels so can only assume that CZC would be using the latest design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I’ve shot my TSO in open major without a comp using 124 Gr FMJ RN with 6.51 Gr of CFE Pistol @ 1.150-1.155 OAL. I just have to install the stock 16# spring to prevent the slide from getting beat up. Recoil is too much though so I got a czechmate afterwards. So far, no broken parts yet. I also cut, drilled and tapped the mag release to install the shadow 2 mag release pad. CZC multioptic mount with trijicon and Advance Ratio thumbrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchblock Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Alright CZ Gurus , can anyone tell me what's involved in a TSO to checkmate conversion? Bad idea? I can already see the dust cover to be chopped but what else am I missing ? If I had them both in front of me I could get an idea but I don't have that luxury. I can pick up a TSO pretty cheap but not sure about a barrel and comp . .. I have access to a machine shop , fitting barrels etc isn't a problem for me Edited January 29, 2019 by Benchblock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 21 hours ago, Benchblock said: Alright CZ Gurus , can anyone tell me what's involved in a TSO to checkmate conversion? Bad idea? I can already see the dust cover to be chopped but what else am I missing ? If I had them both in front of me I could get an idea but I don't have that luxury. I can pick up a TSO pretty cheap but not sure about a barrel and comp . .. I have access to a machine shop , fitting barrels etc isn't a problem for me check out this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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