3djedi Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 That pistol was a work up concept that was put together for SHOT. Reports are that there was some drama at the mother-ship b/c it didn't jive with the modularity concept of the 320 series. The 320 X-5 IS the production release of the "320 Target". I hope so. Looks very nice! The video I saw from shot the guy said late Feb. release. We'll find out very soon. I do worry a little that Sig will delay it as it needs to fulfill US Army obligations for p320's and parts. It's just total guessing on my part though. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On 1/21/2017 at 5:36 PM, BASE772 said: Cool. Good to know. They should include at least four of the 17 round basepads in the box. You can't put the 17-rd X5 Carry/VTAC basepads on the 21-rd X5 mags. The 21-rd mag bodies are full-length, not 17-rd with extentions. Or did you mean just to include the new style so you can replace basepads on some 17-rd mags you already have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, JAFO said: You can't put the 17-rd X5 Carry/VTAC basepads on the 21-rd X5 mags. The 21-rd mag bodies are full-length, not 17-rd with extentions. Or did you mean just to include the new style so you can replace basepads on some 17-rd mags you already have? I meant so one could replace base pads on mags we already have. Thanks for pointing that out. ? But like you said they should make it available with the 17 rounds mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z40acp Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Every new X5 should come with a coupon that you can send in a get base pads to fit the old ones already owned. How much could a flat plastic base pad cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Or you could shave the wings off your current 17 rounders. Even better, get some Springer Precision plus zeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, alma said: Or you could shave the wings off your current 17 rounders. Even better, get some Springer Precision plus zeros. This is all too weird, don't you think. It can't be an oversight - it's not like Phil Strader doesn't understand USPSA. There must be something more to this that we're not in on yet. I cannot believe shaving existing mags or buying new ones is Sig's strategy here, not even in my most pessimistic Sig-skeptical moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, gavagai said: This is all too weird, don't you think. It can't be an oversight - it's not like Phil Strader doesn't understand USPSA. There must be something more to this that we're not in on yet. I cannot believe shaving existing mags or buying new ones is Sig's strategy here, not even in my most pessimistic Sig-skeptical moments. It's possible that the 17 rounders with the newer "FBI" base plates don't fit in gun when the external magwell is attached. I can see why they might prefer to ship it with mags that work in either configuration. The 21 rounders are still legal for the Carry Optics and it makes for an excellent 3 Gun option. Phil said they plan to ship 17 rounders with the newer base pads in March if you don't want to modify existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 What is the grip size like? How does it compare to the currently available grip modules? Is it like a medium, or more like a Large? Just curious as I like the p320's offering of a Large grip module. Finally a gun I can use in Production that will fit my hands properly. Also, is it possible to upgrade the normal P320 serial parts (the FFL chassis) to the X-Five, or are the critical parts all proprietary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's based on a medium grip but it's less round. Other sizes are a possibility. Phil mentioned that he has a prototype small. The FCU and trigger components are now identical to the rest of the line except for the shape of the trigger. SIG backed away from the Trigger design from the Target that would leave the FCU incompatible with everything else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunotFranco Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 21 hours ago, 3djedi said: Does anyone own a p320 Target that was introduced at 2016 shot show? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk The "target" was the prototype name of the X Five... so yes it made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenemwild Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Would this gun be legal in idpa? Maybe with normal p320 grip frame and 17 rd mags?Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakazulu12 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ridenemwild said: Would this gun be legal in idpa? Maybe with normal p320 grip frame and 17 rd mags? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Bull barrel over 4.25 inches would knock it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Ridenemwild said: Would this gun be legal in idpa? Maybe with normal p320 grip frame and 17 rd mags? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk You could run the VTac or the X-Carry in IDPA since those don't have the bull barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenemwild Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 What constitutes a bull barrel? I understand it is thicker but at what point does it cross the line? Seems like a pretty vague term in the rule bookSent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jacket Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 So has the FCU on the X5 been tuned to lighten the trigger pull or is it the same as what is in the existing 320s, but with a straight trigger?? I was hoping it was ready for competition. That would impact my decision to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, Blue Jacket said: So has the FCU on the X5 been tuned to lighten the trigger pull or is it the same as what is in the existing 320s, but with a straight trigger?? I was hoping it was ready for competition. That would impact my decision to purchase. Should be similar to existing P320s but with a reprofiled trigger. There were apparently multiple reasons for this which included cost, schedule, maintaining compatibility across the P320 line, and IPSC Production legality. Grayguns does have a drop in trigger that has been released that acts similar to a Glock 3.5lb connector, taking about 2lb off of the pull. They have additional work that they are performing in house to fit a new sear and reduced power sear springs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jacket Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Thanks Alma. I was thinking it was getting a Grays Trigger job like the Legions. I actually ordered one of their drop in triggers. I'll report out on how it works once it shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 So, this gun won't be legal in IDPA? How about production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 12 hours ago, twister said: So, this gun won't be legal in IDPA? How about production? The goal is for it to be Production Legal (without the extended magwell and extended magazines). Phil Strader said he plans to make 2,500 of them in February and will submit to DNROI for approval as soon as he has numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twister Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Ok, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopinlover Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 11 hours ago, alma said: The goal is for it to be Production Legal (without the extended magwell and extended magazines). Phil Strader said he plans to make 2,500 of them in February and will submit to DNROI for approval as soon as he has numbers. Will the bull barrel production legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, chopinlover said: Will the bull barrel production legal? There are no rules against bull barrels in production. Stock 2, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASE772 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I'm really curious about the grip and how it feels in the hand. Will be hard to beat the 226 Legion SAO grip. I'm very glad they have the optional weight for the X-grip. I always thought the full size 320 was not balanced very well. Unlike the compact 320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I hope to see someone make a brass replacement magwell for the X5, hint, hint . More weight is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, troupe said: I hope to see someone make a brass replacement magwell for the X5, hint, hint . More weight is good. You should take that request to Scott Springer. I think it's very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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