browell172 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have noticed an increase in CZ gunsmiths. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I will be shooting my Automatic Accuracy CZ SP01 in next weeks Comp-Tac 2016 MS State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckstur Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 What's not to like? Skirts the intent of SSP. One DA round, then the rest are SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Like virtually EVERY DA/SA gun. How is that skirting the intent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES13Raven Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) On 9/21/2016 at 5:28 PM, chuckstur said: What's not to like? Skirts the intent of SSP. One DA round, then the rest are SA. Don't see how that is "skirting" the intent of SSP, when the Rule Book specifically allows it. For SA/DA guns, ESP has the advantage here - being able to use SA for the first shot. This comes into play heavily during Standards stages where each string SSP has to start hammer down, especially on SHO or WHO strings. Also on difficult first targets, like small poppers or a clay target like we had on one stage at Nationals. Edited September 23, 2016 by ES13Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerko Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 It boils down to practice and stage planing. I shoot GP in bothe ESP and SSP and if I feel that double action first shot I disadvantage for me , I plan accordingly or slow down on first shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 It looks like my SP-01 shadow is a tad bit over the 43 oz (w/empty mag). What are you other CZ shooters doing to get under 43 oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 vz grips. smaller safeties. fixed rear sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 If you're using the stock rubber grips, swap to VZ's. Easiest way to save weight. Also, 18 round mag bodies and base pads are the lightest configuration. That helps too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Well, I was using a scale for weighing food. When it was displaying the oz weight it was around 47 oz when set to show grams it was right at 1200, which should be good. Im thinking the scale is not as accurate when displaying weight in ounces. It's an SP-01 shadow with VZ diamonds, shadow safeties, stainless guide rod, mec-gar 17 rnd nckl pltd mags w/SP base pads. Should be under the 1219 grams max weight. Gonna be close though. Edited October 5, 2016 by B_RAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 On 7/25/2016 at 7:52 PM, johes said: "And don't like watching guys lower the hammer for a USPSA Production start." Agreed. Rule is same for IDPA SSP. Should let us stop at half cock same as decocker models. Unnecessarily unsafe in both sports. Unsafe ?? If you pointed the gun in an unsafe direction while doing it then that would be a dq, I don't understand why the procedure would bother anybody with the gun pointed in a safe direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 It's not a terrible idea to use the 18 rd's for IDPA sanctioned matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Unsafe ?? If you pointed the gun in an unsafe direction while doing it then that would be a dq, I don't understand why the procedure would bother anybody with the gun pointed in a safe direction. What is the point of the procedure in the first place?Many dec0ckers go to 1/2 c0ck, why not the same for those without dec0ckers?Unsafe? Meh. LESS safe? Probably.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 2 hours ago, IronArcher said: What is the point of the procedure in the first place? As I understand it, the procedure stems from a desire to put striker fired guns on equal competitive footing with da/sa guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronArcher Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Again, with so many guns that have a decocker that drops to 1/2 cock, and that being perfectly legal, why require other guns to drop the hammer all the way down?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The CZ has become popular for many reasons, one being it can be shot in SSP and USPSA Production. For me, the ergonomics are excellent and once the trigger is tuned, its by far the best DA/SA trigger out there. The gun is more accurate than the plastic fantastic and the price is right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 On 10/7/2016 at 6:40 PM, IronArcher said: Again, with so many guns that have a decocker that drops to 1/2 cock, and that being perfectly legal, why require other guns to drop the hammer all the way down? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro USPSA production division? Pg 85 "Special conditions: Handguns with external hammers must be fully decocked at the start signal" Maybe you are thinking of a different sport or referring to guns with internal hammers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Sac Law Man said: The CZ has become popular for many reasons, one being it can be shot in SSP and USPSA Production. For me, the ergonomics are excellent and once the trigger is tuned, its by far the best DA/SA trigger out there. The gun is more accurate than the plastic fantastic and the price is right.. Admitting one of my many flaws - if I start d.a. I am not going to get the first shot off before I am ready - with sao and an equivalent sa trigger and match nerves I have done that. So far I have never let one go in a dangerous fashion (seem to hit alphas as often as not), but it has happened and I have seen others do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1911 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) On 10/7/2016 at 7:40 PM, IronArcher said: Edited November 1, 2016 by M1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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