TFin04 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 If this has been done elsewhere, apologies for repeating. I'm curious what kind of round count your CZ's have seen and what resulting parts breakages you have experienced. Most curious about the SP01 and P09 guns to see if the Omega system and the new polymer guns are more durable than the older steel frame designs. Thanks for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm at 52k on an SP-01 Accu-Shadow and 16k on an SP-01 Shadow. Both get the hell dry fired out of them. I've been replacing the springs, slide stop, and extractor group regularly and haven't had any breakages there. Main thing of note was replacing the barrel around 40k rounds. The AC was grouping worse than the SP-01, but a new barrel fixed that real quick. The hammer hooks on the SP-01 wore down to where a cocked hammer would drop to half-cock when seating a fresh magazine. Not sure what was up with that, but the pistol got a new hammer and sear. Keep an eye on the magazine catch. It does get beat up over time. The two humps on the top of the trigger bar also wear down. I replaced a bunch of internals on my AC at 50k as a precautionary measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFin04 Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 Thanks. How often are you replacing springs and slide stops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Seems like I break trigger return springs every 5,000 rounds or so in my practice gun. That also includes daily dry fire,so who knows how many trigger pulls. New recoil springs every 10,000 rounds or so. I haven't broken a slide stop yet, but I've switched to a rami slide stop. 30-35,000 total on the practice gun. Edited June 9, 2016 by bthoefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oteroman Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Rain slide stop? Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Rain slide stop? Better? Rami slide stop is smaller. The extended slide stop on the SP-01 hit my left thumb and interfered with my weak hand grip. They shouldn't be any more durable, just that changing to a new one might have prevented a breakage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MRevolutionIX Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I'm at 52k on an SP-01 Accu-Shadow and 16k on an SP-01 Shadow. Both get the hell dry fired out of them. I've been replacing the springs, slide stop, and extractor group regularly and haven't had any breakages there. Main thing of note was replacing the barrel around 40k rounds. The AC was grouping worse than the SP-01, but a new barrel fixed that real quick. The hammer hooks on the SP-01 wore down to where a cocked hammer would drop to half-cock when seating a fresh magazine. Not sure what was up with that, but the pistol got a new hammer and sear. Keep an eye on the magazine catch. It does get beat up over time. The two humps on the top of the trigger bar also wear down. I replaced a bunch of internals on my AC at 50k as a precautionary measure. How many rounds did you have through it when the hammer and sear started to fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Thanks. How often are you replacing springs and slide stops? I’m replacing the TRS (model from CZC), recoil spring, main spring, and slide stop every 10k. I think the main spring can safely go 20k. Firing pin and firing pin spring get changed at 20k along with the extractor group. The firing pin does shorten measurably over time. I replaced the sear and mag catch springs at 50k. Pull the extractor and clean out under it every 5k rounds. These numbers are on the conservative side. Better safe than sorry IMO. The hammer on my SP-01 needed replacing at 15k rounds. The hooks were very worn when I looked carefully. Honestly not sure how that happened, as the hooks on my Accu Shadow were only slightly worn at 50k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBray Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 14,762 broken slide stop 22,715 broken slide stop 27,175 broken extractor 32,216 broken slide stop 32,489 broken trigger return spring 39,135 broken slide stop 49,155 broken slide stop 60,089 r&r barrel worn out. All ammo fired with Titegroup and 124/125 gr bullets. 62,194 and through pistol. Somewhere in all of this the rear sight broke. The portion of the sight behind the dove tail was not under cut so there was tension on the rear of the sight all the time. There should be a small gap (.001-.002") between that area of the sight and the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 14,762 broken slide stop 22,715 broken slide stop 27,175 broken extractor 32,216 broken slide stop 32,489 broken trigger return spring 39,135 broken slide stop 49,155 broken slide stop 60,089 r&r barrel worn out. All ammo fired with Titegroup and 124/125 gr bullets. 62,194 and through pistol. Somewhere in all of this the rear sight broke. The portion of the sight behind the dove tail was not under cut so there was tension on the rear of the sight all the time. There should be a small gap (.001-.002") between that area of the sight and the slide. That's a lot of slide stops. What weight recoil spring do you run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinZA Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Cz 75 TS 25 000 rounds so far Nothing broken yet Only thing changed is recoil spring and buffers Sent by Jedi mind control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFin04 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Anybody have high round count P09's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom919 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'm at 52k on an SP-01 Accu-Shadow and 16k on an SP-01 Shadow. Both get the hell dry fired out of them. I've been replacing the springs, slide stop, and extractor group regularly and haven't had any breakages there. Main thing of note was replacing the barrel around 40k rounds. The AC was grouping worse than the SP-01, but a new barrel fixed that real quick. The hammer hooks on the SP-01 wore down to where a cocked hammer would drop to half-cock when seating a fresh magazine. Not sure what was up with that, but the pistol got a new hammer and sear. Keep an eye on the magazine catch. It does get beat up over time. The two humps on the top of the trigger bar also wear down. I replaced a bunch of internals on my AC at 50k as a precautionary measure. Did a new barrel have to be fitted by CZC? I'm noticing a drop in accuracy in mine but still can't believe it would be the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Did a new barrel have to be fitted by CZC? I'm noticing a drop in accuracy in mine but still can't believe it would be the barrel. I sent the slide to CZC and they fit the barrel for me. But it's evidently not that difficult to do. How many rounds to you have through the barrel? I suspect that lifetime depends on bullet and powder selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom919 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I sent the slide to CZC and they fit the barrel for me. But it's evidently not that difficult to do. How many rounds to you have through the barrel? I suspect that lifetime depends on bullet and powder selection. I only have about 7k through it and have been shooting mostly bayou moly coated bullets with titegroup. I also have another accushadow that is more accurate than this one is. I've shot groups at 25 yards off a bag and have always seen this one shadow have wider groups. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbradski69 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I have a SP01 Shadow with about 14k rounds through it. Just had to replace the 11 lb recoil spring, otherwise it's still all original parts (what I received from CZ Custom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I only have about 7k through it and have been shooting mostly bayou moly coated bullets with titegroup. I also have another accushadow that is more accurate than this one is. I've shot groups at 25 yards off a bag and have always seen this one shadow have wider groups. Thoughts? It shouldn't wear our that quickly. Try giving the barrel a good scrubbing with a bronze brush and cleaning solvent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom919 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah I religiously clean after every match or range session. Still interested to see why one accu is noticeably more accurate than the other. Sorry to kind of thread jack. My trigger return spring broke after only 3000 and a ton of dry firing. The main pin on my rear HAJO sight broke at 4500 which sucks. Having a smith drill it out an fit a new pin since I can't get part of the old one out. Asked Stuart and he said to send the whole sight back but I don't have the tools to install a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Cz 75 TS 25 000 rounds so far Nothing broken yet Only thing changed is recoil spring and buffers Sent by Jedi mind control How often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinZA Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Recoil spring once a year Buffers last almost forever at 167 power factor (practice ammo for IPSC). But 178 power factor (match ammo) destroys them in about 1000 rounds Sent by Jedi mind control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah I religiously clean after every match or range session. Still interested to see why one accu is noticeably more accurate than the other. Sorry to kind of thread jack. My trigger return spring broke after only 3000 and a ton of dry firing. The main pin on my rear HAJO sight broke at 4500 which sucks. Having a smith drill it out an fit a new pin since I can't get part of the old one out. Asked Stuart and he said to send the whole sight back but I don't have the tools to install a new one. You'll want a CZC bench block, sight pusher, and punch set (recommendation) sooner rather than later. Adjustable sights break—it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthoefer Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah I religiously clean after every match or range session. Still interested to see why one accu is noticeably more accurate than the other. Sorry to kind of thread jack. My trigger return spring broke after only 3000 and a ton of dry firing. The main pin on my rear HAJO sight broke at 4500 which sucks. Having a smith drill it out an fit a new pin since I can't get part of the old one out. Asked Stuart and he said to send the whole sight back but I don't have the tools to install a new one. You'll want a CZC bench block, sight pusher, and punch set (recommendation) sooner rather than later. Adjustable sights breakit's a fact of life. That's why I like fixed sights. And loctite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I can't keep track of rounds on parts, so I just change things based on time. Twice a year January/June I change magazine springs firing pin spring main spring trigger return spring fiber optic rod recoil spring Once a year in January I replace slide stop lever extractor and spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tok36 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Anybody have high round count P09's? Here is a link to a thread about an 09 with 40k through it. http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=69565.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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