Nemesis Lead Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do folks consider this good technique with an AR? What are the pros and cons? I shoot limited, BTW. Just curious on more recent thinking. When I learned to shoot in the military, this is how we learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 As long as you have a good consistant cheek to stock weld it doesnt matter. I like to take a piece of good tape and build a little index point for my cheek. That way i dont get gas in my eye and i dont have to get so far up on the gun. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Instead of tape use a piece of velcro, the hook side. You can feel it with your cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Do folks consider this good technique with an AR? What are the pros and cons? I shoot limited, BTW. Just curious on more recent thinking. When I learned to shoot in the military, this is how we learned. I learned that way as well in 1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I used to do this. I like it alot because no matter how dumb of a position you are in, you get on the scope quick with no bullshit. Last year I ended up extending my stock halfway to get closer to my shotgun LOP. I found that when I shot NTCH my strong arm was doing almost no work, making offhand shots and fast rifle transitions slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebwake Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I like the idea of the velcro. I might have to do that. I actually build a bump up with gorilla tape so I can feel it though, not just a piece of tape. This is a little trick I took from the long range gunners I work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I'm still a nose to charging handle guy myself and try to setup all my scopes/reddots in this matter, no reason behind it, its just what I'm use too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I like NTCH when shooting Limited with irons or a red dot. Unfortunately, with a low power zoom scope in other divisions, the eye relief is usually wrong even with an extended mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Instead of tape use a piece of velcro, the hook side. You can feel it with your cheek. Be careful if you have a beard! Dumping your rifle might not be so quick and painless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Instead of tape use a piece of velcro, the hook side. You can feel it with your cheek. Be careful if you have a beard! Dumping your rifle might not be so quick and painless! OUCH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I used to do this. I like it alot because no matter how dumb of a position you are in, you get on the scope quick with no bullshit. Last year I ended up extending my stock halfway to get closer to my shotgun LOP. I found that when I shot NTCH my strong arm was doing almost no work, making offhand shots and fast rifle transitions slower. Same here, I shoot open, I've found with the stock extended, and weak side arm fully extended, offhand , long range is way better. However, NTCH is faster/more accurate when using the 45* RDS while walking and shooting. If there is a few steps between transitions I adjust my stock accordingly. If not I keep it long. A recent example last weekend at the Surefire match, 2 stages back to back had plate racks about ~70 yds, first stage I was NTCH , more tucked in. I shot 13 rounds for 6 plates. next stage I remembered to extend - went 1/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 That's how I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 We used to call this "climbing the sights". I does induce a bit of dispersion at very long range, but if you are used to it there is nothing wrong with it. it is taught that way in the military because it is an easy reference... not the best nor the worst, just easy to teach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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