ZackJones Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 I saw that this will be discussed at the November BOD meeting. Please contact your AD and ask him to support the new division. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) https://youtu.be/T8Nm6y84D5g I think this has real potential in SC and USPSA too! It was crazy fun! Edited November 12, 2015 by MikeFoley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Looks like a great deal of fun MikeFoley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Mike tell us about that blaster. I don't know squat about PCC other than I want to shoot it Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 It's a home built rifle and suppressor, it runs extremely well though. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The carbine I used is a JP GMR-13 that uses Glock magazines. I purchased it several months ago just for this competition. It has a 14.5" barrel with a pinned brake. All of the controls are AR15 in nature, except a pivoting mag catch, but it is in the same location. It has an Aimpoint Micro H1 4MOA mounted in a Daniel Defense Aimpoint Mount. I used a Magpul CTR stock, and K grip. The cool thing about the JP is the buffer system, it uses a silent captured spring system with weights. I have about 2000 rounds on this carbine with zero failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdphotoguy Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The carbine I used is a JP GMR-13 that uses Glock magazines. I purchased it several months ago just for this competition. It has a 14.5" barrel with a pinned brake. All of the controls are AR15 in nature, except a pivoting mag catch, but it is in the same location. It has an Aimpoint Micro H1 4MOA mounted in a Daniel Defense Aimpoint Mount. I used a Magpul CTR stock, and K grip. The cool thing about the JP is the buffer system, it uses a silent captured spring system with weights. I have about 2000 rounds on this carbine with zero failures. Oh great, now I've got one more thing on the wish list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Minutes are up from the 10 November meeting and it looks like we're getting PCC as a provisional division: Pistol Caliber Carbine Division/SCSA Disucssion Motion: President and DNROI will form an appendix to define the parameters of a Pistol Caliber Carbine provisional division for approved SCSA matches. Appendix will be presented to BOD for review and approval at the January in-person meeting. Moved: A7 Seconded: A2 PASSED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The carbine I used is a JP GMR-13 that uses Glock magazines. I purchased it several months ago just for this competition. It has a 14.5" barrel with a pinned brake. All of the controls are AR15 in nature, except a pivoting mag catch, but it is in the same location. It has an Aimpoint Micro H1 4MOA mounted in a Daniel Defense Aimpoint Mount. I used a Magpul CTR stock, and K grip. The cool thing about the JP is the buffer system, it uses a silent captured spring system with weights. I have about 2000 rounds on this carbine with zero failures. Mike, Great videos man. Really enjoyed watching them. Not to drift this thread, but in your opinion, does the 9mm carbine really make use of a brake or is it just another gadget to spend money on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) The carbine I used is a JP GMR-13 that uses Glock magazines. I purchased it several months ago just for this competition. It has a 14.5" barrel with a pinned brake. All of the controls are AR15 in nature, except a pivoting mag catch, but it is in the same location. It has an Aimpoint Micro H1 4MOA mounted in a Daniel Defense Aimpoint Mount. I used a Magpul CTR stock, and K grip. The cool thing about the JP is the buffer system, it uses a silent captured spring system with weights. I have about 2000 rounds on this carbine with zero failures.Mike,Great videos man. Really enjoyed watching them. Not to drift this thread, but in your opinion, does the 9mm carbine really make use of a brake or is it just another gadget to spend money on? It is a waste of money. 9mm kicks more than you think, despite the anemic round and the increased weight of the rifle, there is more reciprocating mass. The bolts are heavier and generally if you are shooting suppressed you want the heaviest buffer available. Add that to the fact there is no delay from lockup as 9mm ARs are generally all blowback, the bolt comes forward like a slide hammer. I would describe the recoil as slow and if I push splits faster than .15 seconds, it almost seems like they recoil down and you are kinda waiting on the action. I would for sure say the recoil on a .223 is flatter but it is not unmanageable. These are a few of the heavier buffers I fabricated to keep my 5" SBR quiet and these do make a difference. Edited December 5, 2015 by RevolverJockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 The GMR comes with a comp from JP. I count myself lucky in that I got to pick up my very own yesterday from my FFL. It's slick. Had to take it to the range immediately. Loaded up a 33rd Glock stick with a few rounds of factory stuff, a bunch of random range pickup rounds and some of my 147gr minor reloads. It ate every one without a single hiccup. I spoke with Ben @ JP regarding the effectiveness of the comp when ordering mine and he said that it does make a difference when shooting with and without side-by-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I suppose the only way to really know is to remove the brake while at the range and see for oneself. Care to be the guinea pig and film it wgj3? =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recon'sHide Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Nice Work Zac! I was hoping it could happen, appreciate your work on this as I am getting back in to the shooting game some. I too have a JP 9mm coming this month and am stoked. Look forward to shooting with you on the steel soon. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Re: video... I can give it a try, though I must confess I'm not too keen on removing my perfectly timed/blended comp from my brand new GMR... I may actually check with a couple guys nearby and see if they would loan theirs (non-factory) for the "research". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I can relate to not wanting to remove the brake. Let us know how testing with a non-brake upper turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Time to start looking for a PCC. Here's an FYI article: http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/top-7-9mm-carbines/#9mmc-gwjj15-keltec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Bought a Stag model 9 today. I couldn't bring myself to spring for a JP for what I want it for. This is going to be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Bought a Stag model 9 today. I couldn't bring myself to spring for a JP for what I want it for. This is going to be fun! What was the price difference between the Stag and JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrmblr Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Anyone have experience with these guys? http://www.quartercircle10.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevolverJockey Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Anyone have experience with these guys? http://www.quartercircle10.com/ If you look at the rifle I posted above, the lower is made by DDLES (the predecessor of sorts of QC10) never had any trouble with it. I do favor the look and function of the colt pattern lowers and the Metalform mags. If you want to discuss it feel free to PM me and give me a call. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Bought a Stag model 9 today. I couldn't bring myself to spring for a JP for what I want it for. This is going to be fun!What was the price difference between the Stag and JP?$800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 That's pretty significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 That's pretty significant.For me it is. It's just a standard AR format carbine. The mag well is specific to colt style, UZI mags. No adapters or spacers etc. for the cost difference one could slowly build upon it to their own taste. In the meantime $800 is a lot of practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottlep Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Has anyone seen or heard any provisional division rules yet for PCC? Is PPC going to be an iron sight or red dot division...or both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPGMD Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Has anyone seen or heard any provisional division rules yet for PCC? Is PPC going to be an iron sight or red dot division...or both? It is going to be like Rimfire with an optics, and an iron sights division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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