Dave Gundry Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Jgus, you may want to put the correct size pin in the gun (stock or aftermarket) to avoid potentially damaging the frame or components. Using a smaller diameter pin focuses the load on a very small area, as opposed to distributing the load over roughly half a pin circumference. Focusing that load, especially with moving components, will cause excessive wear and possibly a stress riser that could crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISIG Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 SISIG, The pins don't work they way you interpret. The center narrowed center section is occupied by the trigger return spring, keeping the pin positioned so the trigger only runs on the larger OD. Thanks David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGus Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Jgus, you may want to put the correct size pin in the gun (stock or aftermarket) to avoid potentially damaging the frame or components. Using a smaller diameter pin focuses the load on a very small area, as opposed to distributing the load over roughly half a pin circumference. Focusing that load, especially with moving components, will cause excessive wear and possibly a stress riser that could crack. There is no wobble or movement of the pin of any kind when it's in place. None. As I've said, the fit of the CGW CZ pin in the Stock 2 and 3 by appearance and feel seems to fit exactly as it does in my CZ Accu Shadow. So I can't imagine how it would cause any damage unless there was some wobble or play in the fit of the pin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Hi David, I honestly couldn't tell you if the size of all of the Tanfo Pins are the same since I only have match elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmeky Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Tan frames are heat treated, as are our floating trigger pins, therefore there is no discernible wear as a long as the fit is proper. Our pins have a .002" +/- clearance in the CZ, and the same in the Canik. This is in reality .001" per side on the pins radius. This is why I asked what the Tan's frame pin bore measures. We don't advertise our pins for use in the Tan's, but I have learned most of the forum members here are a lot sharper than I. I respect and appreciate their input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 If I get a chance this week I will try and find the original tanfo pin and make some measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Henning trigger pin for Tanfo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) So here is the Stock tanfo trigger roll pin next to the CGW Canik trigger pin. The tanfo elite match pin's width varies from .095" to .101". The CGW Canik pin is .097" in width. So it is roughly .001" thicker than the Henning Trigger Pin if my Harbor Freight Caliper is accurate, LOL. I was thinking about getting a CZ97 trigger from Dave and having both holes hogged out for use in a tanfo if that is feasible. Edited July 30, 2015 by himurax13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Looks like the length is good. Being 1 thou oversize should be fine. It should remove some of the trigger slop as part of that comes from the pin to trigger fit. Good alternative to the henning pin. Though I've been happy with the henning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I have the floating trigger pin and trigger return spring in my stock 2 and it runs just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 so for Stock 2-3 and Lim Pro owners should use the CZ or Canik pin? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 From the sound of it the CZ pin is much too small, the Canik pin is much closer, and sounds perfectly serviceable. What a lot of people are forgetting when they say all the pins fit tight, is that the trigger return spring is pushing against the pin, so it is always going to 'feel' tight weather it is a proper fit or not... I'll pick up one of the Canik pins at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaep1911 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I installed one on my Elite Limited. It was tight fit when I installed (I had to use a punch..) but it is now floating in the gun as intended. It is a nice small part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 so for Stock 2-3 and Lim Pro owners should use the CZ or Canik pin? ThanksDid you see my earlier post? Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogiebb Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 yes I did see your earlier post that's why I got the canik pin, but turns out it was too big for my stock 2-3 so I just re ordered a CZ pin as I don't want to ream the hole bigger. its a bit loose but does not walk out or anything... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Interesting. I used the stock pins from my Elite Matches to replace the ones in a Stock 2/3 since the owner was too cheap to buy new ones and it worked perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
himurax13 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I looked at some stock 2's and 3's that I installed Canik pin on and they all fit without any issues. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboadway Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I replaced the CZ pin with the Canik one. In my Stock II it was a nice, snug fit as opposed to the loose fit of the CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngineerEli Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I got one of the pins too. It was quite snug when first installing it, so I took it out, chucked it up in a drill and hit it with 1500 grit sand paper then some mothers polish, did the same for the holes in the frame. Now it fits perfectly. It does seem to smooth things out ever so slightly. The slave pin they give you for install seems a little big though, may have to come up with a better slave pin for easy installation... I was thinking about this again though.... Is this pin USPSA Production legal? Is anyone really going to care? Club matches? Area level matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarkey Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I wouldn't say its illegal. IMO it doesn't constitute a visible external modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I thought it had been said that running the Henning pin/bolt was illegal, so I would think this pin is illegal. But don't ask me, I don't have enough money to run production.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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