45Fundi Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I read lots of SCAR pros/cons and with all the comparisons no one seems to ever really compare how they shoot against each other... so can a SCAR 16 compete with a AR in competition? (and yes I know there are many different AR setups for competition... just curious if one has a significant advantage over the other?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Bam Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Yes, The FN-USA team competes with SCAR platform. I used to Compete with the ACR platform. But you will have to change the trigger and find the right ammo that runs well with the gun. I had also change my muzzle flash hider to an AAC muzzle break and used a Geissele AR-3GUN trigger Only disadvantage is these guns are little heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuey Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Oh yes!! I have seen them shoot and I wish I got one instead of my AR. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 SCARs are cool rifles and have a bit of a reliability advantage over the AR. But a properly maintained AR doesn't suffer from reliability problems. It's the archer, not the bow, that determines final placement in a 3 gun match. It just so happens most of the archers choose to use an AR. If you like the SCAR, by all means, use the SCAR. A different platform won't raise/lower your overall match performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think most all FN guys at shooting fn Ar15 s now that fun makes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Fundi Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 I guess I was wanting to know if the cyclic rate and recoil impulse and triggers available allowed them to be truly competitive? If the same shooter were to shoot either would the splits be different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I guess I was wanting to know if the cyclic rate and recoil impulse and triggers available allowed them to be truly competitive? If the same shooter were to shoot either would the splits be different? Splits don't win matches either. They usually don't even separate 32nd place from 31st. Are you wanting to compare a tuned gas, low mass operating system AR15 to a stock SCAR? (I'm not aware of anyone making low mass components or adjustable gas blocks for SCAR.) Triggers- Timney and Geisselle both make them for SCAR. Choose from about 20 "match" triggers for the AR. Advantage= AR. Again- the SCAR is a really nice rifle. They are accurate, dead reliable, and look cool to boot. But, it doesn't have the aftermarket presence nor the years of use by competitive shooters to turn it into a high performance competition rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPD7119 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I wouldn't be worried about splits, I have a scar 16 with the Geissele super scar trigger and no other upgrades. I can consistently get .11 splits with it. I shoot my buddies Noveske ar15 with a Geissele super dynamic 3 gun trigger and I get the same splits. The groups are about the same too but like Bryan 45 said I wouldn't worry about splits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastshooter03 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 No the SCAR has much too heavy bolt and carrier to compete with the AR......... Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I would say yes but, at no where near the same price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchinCamaro Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Splits don't win matches either. They usually don't even separate 32nd place from 31st. There is so much truth in this statement. I wish I had really understood this when building a dedicated 3gun rifle and saved money for ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Fundi Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 No, I'm looking for facts based on the mechanical function of a stock AR (gas length does not matter any will do) and a stock SCAR 16. I'm not interested in Gaming tactics or advice. I am trying to learn about the mechanical function differences between the two systems. If anyone know I'd love to hear about them. Thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Send Mark Hanish or Tommy Thacker an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmiller Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Here is how it was described to me. AR uses a big spring and lighter bolt. A SCAR uses a heavier bolt and smaller springs. I have shot a few and they seem to have a different recoil impulse. Very cool rifles, just out of my budget now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) The SCAR 16 can be quite competitive against the AR given the right type of match. Quick, run n gun rifle stages with targets under 50 yds the AR's have the edge in speed. On mid and long range courses, the 16 is quite capable. The SCAR 17 rules over 308 AR's. They are one of the softest shooting 308's on the market. ...although my opinion may be considered biased... Edited July 20, 2015 by Bear1142 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchinCamaro Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 No, ... No what? The title of this thread is, "Can a Scar16 compete with an AR" and you're asking about splits on a competitive shooting site. I'm actually a bit confused as to what answers you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 It absolutely cannot compete with an AR. 75% of being a 3 gun ninja is looking cool. The SCAR does not have the aftermarket it needs to be truly stylish, thus it can not be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchinCamaro Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) No way, Tiger Bruh. The SCAR is ninja as hell... Edited July 21, 2015 by BitchinCamaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Oh man, I stand corrected that's totes cray cray ninja! I haven't figured out the correlation to the aquatic mammal yet but I'm sure it's also hella ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchinCamaro Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Aquatic mammal? One of those was the original FNH prototype for the Scar. I think that other Beluga went on to win the 3GN series...all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Like the recoil impulse of the SCAR. Feels less than an AR to me. But, the SCAR is heavier. So I prefer the AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Sorry. Double tap Edited August 14, 2015 by Salsantini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45Fundi Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Thanks for all the answers! I just wanted to know if you took two "stock rifles" (and as like rifles as possible) in each platform if one had any inherent mechanical/performance advantages or disadvantages against the other from its original design standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 They both run fine if appropriately maintained. More options and less weight with AR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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