xuxupecheur Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'm considering purchasing a moonclip revo for IDPA and eventually USPSA. I've narrowed my choices to the two guns above. I currently do not reload (a friend of mine does it for me) Cost of ammo is a factor, so I'm leaning towards the 610 in which I can use white box 180 gr. 40 S&W. What PF do you get out of a 4 inch 610 with this load? If closer to 165 than any factory 45 ACP then the 610 would be more appealing over all. I'm also pretty sensitive to felt recoil, so I think the extra weight of the 610 will not hurt. I'll appreciate you opinions on this matter. What would you choose? Cheers! Julio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 625 is the standard, and would be my choice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The 610 has a devout following, but the 625 is the benchmark for USPSA Revolver and IDPA. Best two cases for the 610 I've heard was having .40 dies and brass and not wanting to convert to another caliber, or someone who is just a total 10mm fan. Most people find the 625 loads faster which helps them out. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsonm1 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I just bought one of the new 625JM's. Nice revolver and comes standard with 4" barrel, gold bead front sight, hard chrome narrow grooved trigger and hammer (DA is very heavy out of the box) and Miculek grips. Price was only slightly higher than a standard 4 inch. Since I can get fullmoon clips for 5/$2, made it easier to decide for me. Also, I already reload 45 so ammo wasn't an issue (although I also reload 40). Those big 230 grain bullets really drop freely into those cavernous holes in the cylinder. Easy to reload. Another possible consideration...besides the 50 oz weight rule, rumor is that Smith may discontinue the 610. You should be able to pick up a used 625 for $450-500. Take the savings and buy a Square Deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Another possible consideration...besides the 50 oz weight rule, rumor is that Smith may discontinue the 610. You should be able to pick up a used 625 for $450-500. Take the savings and buy a Square Deal... As far as I know the 610 has already been discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I have owned and competed with both a 610 and a 625. The moon clips for a 610 are more expensive ($75 per 100 compared to $25 per 100). The 625 seemed a better gun for the sports to me so I traded off my 610. They are both excellent guns but there are slight differences that you will probably need to test. As far as ammo, reloading for revolver in these sports is really kind of a necessity. The lighter Federal primers allow better action work. Good luck, I am sure you will enjoy which ever model you choose. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sargenv Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The 610 has been discontinued more than once I have a 610 classic, it's pretty useless for IDPA as it is way too large. I have fun with in in ICORE and IPSC revo division. My reason for buying it was so that I did not need to load for another caliber. I had a 40 already, may as well share components. I rarely shoot full power 10's out of it these days anyway. Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIX SHOT Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I have 2 of each and their isn't a great deal of difference as far as reloads go, a 180 gr. rn 40 cal. and a 230 gr. rn 45 cal both load about the same for me. A 40 case is a little shorter than the 45 case so it should actually be a little faster. The 45 is far and away the most popular though. Another factor is the recoil, a 4" 610 weighs more than a 5" 45 acp, so if both are loaded to equal power factor the 610 will control a little easier. You can't go to far wrong with either. Any revolver is fun! Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeFoley Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 One of the CSRs at S&W told me that the 610 would no longer be offered this year. They had a handful at S&W at that time. I got one of them, and there are some out there in dealer and distributor stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Julio, I know you have a 686, why don't you get a few matches under your belt with that gun before deciding? At the match you will likely be able to borrow my 625 and someone else's 610 and see in real time. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuxupecheur Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Ted: I will indeed !!! You know what happened the last time. I bought a 646 which is now somewhere in MO. Part of the fun of this hobby is thinking what's next. That's all !!! Besides that I have run out of permits, and here in NJ it will take over a month to get new ones. I went to Blue Ridge a couple of weeks ago hoping to meet you but it seems like you did not make it. If you don't mind I'll give you a call one of this days, so you can guide me on a couple of issues. Cheers !!! Julio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sensei Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 625 is the standard, and would be my choice.. ..... oh yeah !!! .... like this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I went to Blue Ridge a couple of weeks ago hoping to meet you but it seems like you did not make it. I really wanted to make the match but just wan't sure I should. Just wasn't up to it. Be better by next month though. Shot USPSA last week (sans crutches) and even Ro'ed without limping too much which made me pretty happy. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Ted What happpened to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Decelleraton Trauma Took a header off a ladder, fell 15 feet onto a Snap-On tool cart then onto the ground. Sprained my knee, ankle and hip. Plus some intensely bad bruises. The cart fared pretty well except for a dent. Those things are pretty tough. Docs couldn't believe that's all I got, they checked me for all sorts of internal injuries because of the height. So with that in mind, the sprains didn't upset me too much. ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwmagnus Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I'm considering purchasing a moonclip revo for IDPA and eventually USPSA. I've narrowed my choices to the two guns above.I currently do not reload (a friend of mine does it for me) Cost of ammo is a factor, so I'm leaning towards the 610 in which I can use white box 180 gr. 40 S&W. What PF do you get out of a 4 inch 610 with this load? If closer to 165 than any factory 45 ACP then the 610 would be more appealing over all. I'm also pretty sensitive to felt recoil, so I think the extra weight of the 610 will not hurt. I'll appreciate you opinions on this matter. What would you choose? Cheers! Julio Another vote for the 625. I personally like the recoil better than that of the 610. Factory ammo is cheaper also although I roll my own. Both are nice revos but the 625 is more popular in competitions for good reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvmichael Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Where does one buy moonclips @ $25 per 100??? sensei, Love those grips. Is there a difference between the 25-2 and 625? Besides the stainless. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Where does one buy moonclips @ $25 per 100???sensei, Love those grips. Is there a difference between the 25-2 and 625? Besides the stainless. Thanks Nowhere anymore that I know of, Ive done alot of searching and best deal I found was Ranch Products. I just got 40 moonclips from them for 19.95 there sold in packs of 8 for 3.99 shipped you can call them at 313-277-3118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Get a 686 or 586 modified to accept moon-clips and load it w/ light 158 gr 357s . You'll shoot for about half of what a feeding a 625 would cost you (i.e you can practice twice as much for the same price) and can also use it in SSR with 38 +P+s. Tall skinny guys (357s) can run with the short fat guys (625) with practice. Hell - some tall bald headed guy shooting a Ruger - yes, a Ruger - finished 6th overall out of 34, and 2nd in SSR-EX last week in the 05WCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Is there a difference between the 25-2 and 625? Besides the stainless. The 25-2 is a blue gun with an ejector rod shroud rather than a full underlug. It came from the factory with either a six or six-and-a-half inch barrel (factory four and five inch versions are known, but collector's items). It was built as a bullseye gun for folks who didn't want to use bottomfeeders; the 625 came about due to demand from bowling pin shooters. The 25-2 is WAY prettier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvmichael Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 revchuck, Thanks for the explaination. You are so right The 25-2 is WAY prettier!! robomanusa Thanks for the moonclip number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robomanusa Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Your welcome nvmichael, they are very friendly to deal with and will most likely send you a sample moonclip if you ask for one. Here is a photo of my 625-4, it now has a new millet rear sight which isnt shown in the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 WOW! Beautiful picture of the 25-2. Can anyone tell me their experience of the difference in recoil between a 25 and a 625? Sorry for the slight thread drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedale Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Spook, I can perceive no difference in recoil between my 625 5" (PC or 1989) and my 25-2 6 1/2" . The 25-2 has more class though! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Airedale, thanks! I know someone who wants to sell his 25-2 for only $400 and it is in mint condition. I love how it looks, but I doubt I could use it for IPSC. It's just so pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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